JimB

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Is there a particular reason I see everyone is installing the GMU 11 in the RH wing? If you plan to install a GFC 500 at a later date, I think the roll servo is getting installed in that wing (RH). Is it install far enough away to not create interference? Just curious.Would it matter if you installed it in the LH wing other than you are going to have the CAN BUS wire strung all over the place.

While I was at work yesterday I was checking new posts here and saw this post. Didn't really think much of it at the time since I don't have the SWTA 201 style cowling but last night I was at the aircraft finishing up my JPI EDM-900 installation and I recalled this post. I decided to take a look and found the same thing on mine. Be a good idea to look. It isn't a pressurized line and probably wouldn't be catastrophic but.... Thanks DaV8or for sharing! This place really is fantastic!

Go give your local A&P a hug and remember to celebrate Mr. Taylor's birthday. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_Maintenance_Technician_Day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Taylor_(mechanic)

I am interested. 69 F model

Do you know what IPS reading he was getting? I know you said he was very experienced but when you are balancing props, once you get it balanced and the reading very low it will move around a bit. It could be that your prop is already very well balanced, or as suggested, he was trying to balance it with a gusty wind or the equipment is faulty.

I am not that familiar with the GFC 500/G5 system and the ESP system but from the AFM supplements I have read is that you can certainly disable it any time by either holding the A/P disconnect button or on the G5 by selecting it off. I don't think that affects the trim system but I could be wrong. Anytime an ESP mode is active, the pilot can interrupt ESP by using the Autopilot Disconnect (AP DISC / TRIM INT) switch, or simply override ESP by overpowering the autopilot servos. The pilot may also disable ESP through the G5 menu.

Thanks for all the replies. I have learned a valuable lesson. When you want input, post pictures! The general layout I am not really having a hard time with. Really just trying to get ideas from others that have either moved the switches and lights to another location or left them in the same spot. I need the engine monitor/analyzer and the transponder for ADS-B out. Since I am going to be in the panel and taking things apart/changing things I figured I might as well jump in with both feet. I do plan to make a whole new panel and replace the old one with the cracked up plastic overlay and shock mount at the top. I am the A&P/IA that will be doing all of this and the installation of all the avionics. I have not started taking things apart yet to see what structure behind the panel I may have to deal with but I am thoroughly enjoying researhing and looking at all the great panels on this site. I am also finding the old Brittain AP interesting. The one I have has a dial to select your heading and an old heading/magentometer hanging from the top of the aft equipment bay. I also have 4 of the vacuum servos in the tail and a bunch of vacuum lines running all though the aircraft. I was reading in the manuals where you have to set the heading zone you are in and mine appears to have at one point been able to capture and fly a LOC and it has the ALT hold. Kind of cool in a 1960s sort of way. Now if I can get it working, I'd really think it was cool

So not the best picture but here is what I have to work with. The DG is spinning it's way to a slow death and the Britain B6 AP is not functional right now. I am going to work on the AP but there isn't a lot of support for it right now, so we will see. I plan to install a JPI EDM 900. Also going in with a G5 AI and HSI with the thought of a GFC500 when it gets certified for the F model if I can't get the PC AP to work. The GNC 300XL and old Narco TX will get replaced with the new GNX 375 and a GTR 225. And she will get a a new GMA 345. I plan to keep the old Narco MK12D for the time being. Who says I need any help spending money!! This should clean out all the old engine/fuel gauges, EGT gauge, the GNC 300 annunciator/APPR ARM switches, the PMA3000 intercom and eliminate one of the CDIs. My thought would be to extend the rack up a bit and be able to fit all the radios, audio panel, AP and GNX in the middle or put the Narco over to the right of the rack where the TX is. Then move the row of switches, annunciator lights and gear handle up maybe an inch along with the remaining GS/LC CDI. Then I could fit the JPI just to the left of the rack under those items. Or I can just put the JPI to right where the RPM/MP gauges are. Concerns are clearance in the back of the panel. Thoughts?

No one? Guess that doesn't surprise me since I have searched and really haven't found anything. Apparently the 1969 panel is somewhat unique.

Does anyone have a 1969 model that they have upgraded that they would like to show off with some pictures? I am planning an upgrade (G5s, EDM-900, audio panel, GPS, etc) and making some changes to my 69 F model and trying to come up with some ideas. The switches/annuciator lights/gear handle right in the middle of the panel as well as some of the other unique differences of the 69 panel are making my plans difficult. Thanks,

I'm guessing the ESP is using bank and pitch angle from the G5 as well as airspeed. It does have protection from stalls and excessive bank

You might find this helpful. All three knobs 3D printed in the color of your choice https://www.shapeways.com/product/JMG24VGE8/knob-1?optionId=56118838&li=more-from-shop

On a J you only get one magneto! (he says to be funny ...) More seriously, I went through the same thing. Really wanted a J but was willing to take an F. I set myself a price range that I was willing to spend and shopped for both. I did want the longer fuselage and the injected engine. But I was looking for one that needed upgrading and TLC so that wasn't much of a factor. To me there really wasn't a lot of difference in an aircraft with 20-30 year old avionics or one with 30-40 year old avionics.

With the Sun-n-Fun rebates out, I'd like to go ahead and pull the trigger on an EDM 900. I am also trying to do some planning and wanted to know after you place an order, about how long does the kit take to arrive? I know it's special order and gets configured before shipping so I guess it ships directly from JPI? Thanks,

So here goes my first real issue with the new to me M20F. During landing roll out if you don't keep a lot of back pressure and weight off the nose the front end chatters a bit until you reach probably 20-30 mph. Even worse if you apply much braking at all. It's only during landing and no issues during take off. She still tracks straight with no darting around. No real problems during the pre-buy and I didn't have a chance to take a closer look at it on Saturday but have been doing a little research online. Just worn linkages/bushings or nose donuts or should I be looking at SB M20-202? The SB seems to address instability and darting around during takeoff and landing and I don't really have any issue with that.

Perfect! Thanks. I saw that in the form but still wasn't sure if I needed to pay extra.

I am in the process of looking at engine monitors for my new M20F and I am leaning towards the JPI so I have been reviewing the installation manual. When you say you are sending the off the fuel and oil hoses to get the transducers fit, what do you mean? After reading the manual I figured I would just get a couple of lines the right spec, the right length and mount the transducers to the firewall per the instructions. But let me know if this is more involved or I am missing something. Also per the manual it states: "Fuel pressure sensors are only supplied if the POH requires it. If not in the POH Fuel pressure can be supplied at additional cost". Do they ship with the kit since my Mooney M20F POH requires fuel pressure? It appears they are an option on most online ordering sites. Thanks Jim

Thanks for all the help. I have been in touch with Region Flyers and I am hopeful that is going to work out.

Isn't that the truth! Just thought I would try. Unfortunately all the ones I can find are not in any better weather location than I am and most of the old links in previous threads are dead or the club doesn't have the aircraft anymore.

I am trying to arrange my schedule, a CFI's schedule and the weather to pick up my new aircraft that is a 3 hours drive away. This obviously isn't going all that well. Was supposed to go over today but the weather didn't cooperate and doesn't look all that good for the foreseeable future. So i was thinking about trying to find a rental M20F or J located in a better weather location, fly in and get some instruction for a day or two. I have searched the site and not a lot on this. If I search "rental" I get car rentals and rentals vs owning. Anyone know of a rental Mooney somewhere in some better weather may be south or west? Thanks

Thanks everyone. Still looking for a home airport. Indianapolis Executive is closest to me and I like the airport and the FBO operator FirstWing but they only have community hangar space available right now. There are a couple of other options that I am looking at and will certainly update my profile when I get that settled.

Just wanted to post an introduction now that I am officially a new Mooney owner!! I just closed today on my M20F and looking forward for some good weather to get my 5 hours in for insurance and be able to pick her up from Ohio. This winter is really dragging me down! While this is my first post here, I have been lurking, reading and learning a lot. I appreciate the incredible resource this website has been while I have been researching my Mooney purchase. Looking forward to learning more and hopefully sharing too. Jim