jkhirsch Posted September 27, 2016 Report Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Specifically because of the MAPA PPP comment in Sky Manor thread: (and also in regards to the "rash of accidents as of late") Does anyone have [or has seen] any actual data about attendees of MAPA PPP accident rates or incident rates? It would obviously be cool to say "anyone who has ever attended doesn't have an accident" but in case I didn't make it clear in other places, I'm not interested in anecdotes. Which leads me to the next question of: Does anyone have [or has seen] any data about other brands/types of planes safety records with additional voluntary training? A natural extension of that question is: Does anyone have [or has seen] any data about accident/incident rates with AOPA and FAASafety voluntary participation? A more obscure extension would be the dataset of the amount of time that had elapsed since a pilot's BFR and an incident or accident. I'm always interested in expanding the "dataset" for anyone who wants to contribute to that. I am not interesting in speculating on the "results" of these datasets; please do not clog up the thread with that. Nearly all of you have been around the flying community much longer than I have and I am looking for specific sources. (Not how to send an email to the referenced sources) Again please do not clog the thread with speculation or anecdotes. Edited September 27, 2016 by jkhirsch Quote
mooniac15u Posted September 27, 2016 Report Posted September 27, 2016 You may find this relevant. http://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1115&context=jate Quote
jkhirsch Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Thank you. I'm sure I'll find this to be interesting, I may have a personal positive bias in favor of Purdue and SLU anyway Edited September 27, 2016 by jkhirsch Quote
carusoam Posted September 27, 2016 Report Posted September 27, 2016 The Mapa book does cover some accident data sets. Unfortunately I don't recall what was in there. But if Mapa covered it it is worth the read... Best regards, -a- Quote
Guest Posted September 27, 2016 Report Posted September 27, 2016 In Canada we don't have the flight check type of BFR, it would be interesting to see if the accident rate is different. Clarence Quote
gsengle Posted September 27, 2016 Report Posted September 27, 2016 What other type of BFR is there?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Guest Posted September 28, 2016 Report Posted September 28, 2016 We do not do a flight check, many will attend safety training held by Transport Canada or Transport approved independent providers. Taking a ground school counts as well. Those doing an instrument check ride are covered with it. Clarence Quote
Yetti Posted September 28, 2016 Report Posted September 28, 2016 The only data point I can offer is my transition instructor who is also a Mapa instructor and me with a hundred twenty five hours total, not flown in 6 months, in a new complex plane I got a begrudging "you are landing better than most people who have owned a Mooney for a long time" Why don't you interview the Mapa instructors, I am sure they can provide insight Since everything is online now days what if there was a way to video people. post it to the internet, have a review where people just help and not bitch. People want to do better, they just need some pointers. I was very surprised to learn that I check the gear 4 times. Did not know that until I watched one of my videos. Quote
jkhirsch Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Posted September 29, 2016 "The NTSB collects and disseminates very little pilot biographical information, including type club participation for its accident reports, thus data collection and analysis of this accident-related data is often absent from its reports." http://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1115&context=jate Quote
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