Finishing break-in what oil with CamGuard?

[yellowjacket]

I am a couple of hours from finishing my 25 hour break-in on my newly overhauled IO-360A1A. I have always used AeroShell 15W50 in the engine prior to overhaul and I was planning on continuing with AeroShell and adding CamGuard. Carlus Gann is my overhauler and he says it really doesn't make that big a difference what oil I use. I have heard others like Phillips X-C multi-grade oil with CamGuard. Is this just a personal preference or is there some data that shows Phillips (or any other oil) is a better choice? Is multi-grade or single grade oil better in warmer climates?

Jim

1968 M20F

 

[danb35]

If you're going to use CamGuard, it seems wasteful to use it with a heavily additized oil like Aeroshell or Exxon Elite.  Phillips XC is a multigrade, AD mineral oil that is otherwise additive-free, and considerably less expensive than either Aeroshell or Elite.  Results of CamGuard with XC are reported to be very good, though I'm happy so far with Elite.

I've used multigrade oil in '48Q since I bought the plane--I see no demonstrated downside, and the viscosity range is a benefit.

[scottfromiowa]

I did the same AeroShell.  I switched to Phillis XC with CamGuard and have been very happy.  I am about 450 hours into my major.  I go about 6 hours between adding a quart.

[KSMooniac]

I'm another recent convert to Phillips XC + Camguard.  Aviation Consumer recommends this combo as well.

[N201MKTurbo]

If you fly your plane regularly any oil should work fine. If it goes weeks without flying then you need an oil that will not run off of the metal parts and will give some amount of protection during startup with essentially a dry cam and tappet bodies. Corrosion is also a problem after the oil runs off. I fly about 5 hours every week and for the last 25 years have been using Aeroshell 100W and have had no signs of corrosion or wear in any of the engines I have had. A weekly flight of at least 30 minutes is much better for your engine then any oil or additive you can buy.

[scottfromiowa]

Yes, but IF you don't fly weekly and want to significantly reduce rust and improve lubrication...give CamGuard a look.

[yellowjacket]

Thanks for the inputs. I fly for a fractional and work a 7 days on and 7 days off schedule so I don't fly my plane all that much. That is why I want as much corrosion protection as I can get. I think I can get that by using the Phillips and camguard combination. I also like the idea of Phillips XC being about two thirds the cost of AS 15W50. Where do you guys get your Phillips XC? I would like to get some from a local distributor vice buying from an online store. I suspect the price would be close to the same taking into consideration shipping costs and tax. I haven't found a distributor in the Atlanta area yet. Any ideas where to look?

 

Thanks,

Jim

[Mac201]

I just got my plane back after overhaul.  After break-in, I plan to use Phillips X/C since it is recommended by ECI for the Cerminil cylinders, and will add CamGuard.

[Barry]

PS - Phillips X/C = $41.14/case @ http://www.airplaneoil.com/

[mjc]

Quote: Barry

PS - Phillips X/C = $41.14/case @ http://www.airplaneoil.com/

[yellowjacket]

Thanks for the website. The cheapest cost for a case of XC with shipping I have found yet. Ordered a case for $57.22 which includes shipping to Georgia.

I am switching to Phillips XC and using CamGuard. Now I have a case of AS 15W50 to sell or return to the distributor if they will take it back.

 

Jim