Matthew P

Are the gears still good, if so, would you consider selling

hate to ask but what did that cost?

I'm sorry, I was confusing Johnny with Frank Crawford...Senior moment...Frank is the one that is asking about alternatives...

The engineers don't work for Johnny.

That's what my plans are, release the info to the community, hasn't costed me anything but time and whatever the cost of the metallurgy report will be.. so not planning on charging anything, just trying to gather all of the information needed to satisfy the OPP requirements in order to proceed.

Might be, but Mooney has the rights to the gears and they are only available to Mooney.

From what I understand, Mooney Engineers designed the gearing to be used in the actuators and therefore the gears (drawings) are Mooney proprietary that are produced by a 3rd party vendor, which is still in business and CAN fabricate the gears but Mooney REFUSES to take/place an order for us. Johnny is just as frustrated as we are as he's very customer focused, he's asked about alternatives, on behalf of some customers, but he's ignored by the engineers that he poses the questions to.

Will you be willing to send them to me so I can get testing done on the makeup and heat treatment (metalurgy destructive testing report)?

Good morning, still working the issue but feel that it's now become stonewalling. From what I understand, 60 years ago Mooney contracted to have the actuators made but using their engineered gear set which is manufactured by a 3rd party, so the drawings and specs are Mooney proprietary and Mooney will not release them nor say who they used to manufacture them, I have asked the CEO if they refuse to have them produced than why not license them to i.e. Lasar so that 1, Mooney can make a little money and 2 we can get the frigging parts....all I got back thus far is a, I'll call you this afternoon, well, that was a week ago. If anyone can send me an old set so I can get a metallurgy (destructive testing) report done, that would help as I already had a new set loaned to me and had them scanned and I have the CAD drawings for, I've also petitioned the FAA, Certification Branch, under the OPP guidelines, for a copy of the drawings and technical specifications since there is still an active SB and Mooney refuses to have the parts produces, so that's where we are at..wish I had better news and was closer that we were 4 months ago.

Thanks, I don't see the connection between the pucks and the horn, as there's no electrical contacts...what am I missing

Went to takeoff and on takeoff, after putting gear up, the gear horn buzzer came on was during climbing so had full throttle and 100mph airspeed...any ideas or what I need to check for, tried to reset CB to no avail, after a minute it went out but did the same thing on next departure..

Sent you a message

Good Morning, yes and I'm working on that but having spoken with the certification branch it seems as though it's a protracted process, which I'm willing to try, just trying to expedite things if there's another way...

Thanks, I appreciate it, there should still be enough for the metalurgist to determine, through destructive testing, the material used as well as the heat treatment, then I have the info for the manufactures to get quotes to fabricate and their report should satisfy the "as good as or better than OEM" for OPP

So, you missed the part where it came from the factory with a J-bar and then upgraded to electric

Jake, will you please send me the old gear set so I can have them sent to a metalurgist for destructive testing to determine the type of steel and hardening process? I have the 3D CAD drawings of the gear set but not the metal specs...I'll contact Mr. Pollack tomorrow to see where we are on getting a batch made up, probably no closer than 3 months ago but I'll try...looking to go the OPP route and once I get the metalurgy report done, my plan is to share the info on mooneyspace...unfortunately it won't help you currently...please let me know if you are willing to send me the worn gear set. V/r Matt

I thought I made that understood that I understand that, evidently not...so...I understand that...thanks

I am, I'm not expecting that the SF would "fix" anything.

Surefly recommends new harness to be installed at the time of installation, from what I understand the trouble is when individuals either go with the thin wire or cheap harnesses

Thanks, so far we found an induction leak and that the adjustment blocks were way out, it has gotten significantly better, looking at mags next, going to a surefly on left side...

Have an IO 360 a1a that we can't get to idle below 1000 rpm, it spits and spudders...tried adjusting mixture, cleaned injectors, but can't get it below 1000 without it running extremely rough...any suggestions?

Don't need an STC, minor alteration and paperwork by your avionics guy, just put one on my mooney for very same reason, they will even send you examples of the forms for the minor alterations..I only goy one for the pilot station, due to the price of the leather wrapped one, I really like it

Actually, I'm not boring cylinders I'm bleeding brakes and changing o-ring on caliper

Thanks, will see if they have one

Thanks Everyone