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And just for fun, if anyone watches Southpark, any time I say or type the word tinnerman, it flows through my head in Cartman voice. GD Scott Tinnerman!!!

@EricJ I’ve replaced a bunch of timberlands, and maybe I’m mistaken about the panels themselves, but I’ve got a few paltry bites in my nose gear door hinges and I believe they tap right into an aluminum runner

So, I’m going off memory, but I think there are a few “tinnermanless” holes for some of the sheet metal screws. I know the nose wheel door hinges are of that description.

I’ve got a few screw holes in my belly panels, the sheet metal variety, that are a bit gouged out and thus won’t accept the correct size screw. It’s nearly impossible to keep track of the holes and their appropriate “oversized” replacement. Especially since it’s not always me removing them. Instead of having to find oddball oversized screws, has anyone had luck repairing screw holes to correct size in any capacity? I was thinking about the ole JB Weld trick. Clean off the gouged hole, apply some JB Weld into the hole, spray a light coat of lubricant to the screw (so the JB doesn’t stick well to the screw) let set, remove screw. Now you have new JB threads. I may never get around to actually doing this, it’s such a petty thing, but it drives my OCD nuts. or just bite the labor bullet and install one piece w cam locks.

For $700 just buy actual jacks that can be used for more reasons than this isolated case. They last plenty long to fool with all of this

To be fair, that can be said of any new to market aircraft. There is a curve where for many years, the data is not available yet and there are no instructors with mastery of said aircraft until it’s been around long enough to produce it. Check the curve of the MU2 for example. I don’t think we have data far enough back to legitimately score Mooney, Beech, Piper, Cessna, bc they are so classic, but there was a point where everyone was still learning there, too.

As it pertains to aircraft value, the market isn’t considering vacuum gyros a plus. There are plenty of folks who prefer non-electric. However, they aren’t going to pay you extra for it. They will pay you extra for glass.

My understanding- The Klappmeiers designed the airplane with the core purpose of marketing the airplane to wives. Nice ergonomics, safety, etc. The parachute was always a part of the design. It’s what stood it apart in many ways. The procedure for exiting a spin, as written by Cirrus, is to deploy the parachute. It’s logical that its’ type design be certificated in such a way that agreeswith the procedure. Evidenced by EASA, It’s probably just about as spin friendly as a Mooney, so not great. They had a safer solution and so the rest is history. Additional tools are not the enemy. Proper foundation is paramount. Proper foundation plus additional tools is always better.

Probably get a better answer from the design teams of every single manufacturer building new airplanes today or any avionics shop in the country. When’s the last time you heard of someone going into avionics to have there glass panel ripped out for a steam gauge replacement?

@Hank every single caps deployment that was actuated within the speed envelope, everyone has survived. And quite a few outside the speed envelope. It’s 140 Kias in the late model 22’s. I’ve got a fair amount of time in it, so I’ve thought about it a lot, with that record- it is a no brainer. I couldnt care less about the airplane after a catastrophic failure. I’ll take the 100% survival rate all day and not leave it up to chance. The only thing I care about is making it home for dinner. if an airport is near, I would just do that. I would pull a chute in my Mooney in all same scenarios if it had one.

$140k seems very high for a basically original bird that only has the engine in the “plus” column. I think the market for people wanting to fly an original steam six pack is only getting smaller with each passing day for a swarm of reasons.

Yeah, I already bought a serviceable backup actuator (to obviously include the gear) so that’s -1 from the list. I probably would’ve paid $1,500 for a gear set but I would be skeptical to do so without it being in hand. The timeline seems very frothy with all those variables

I have not read all 5 pages of this thread, but I did look at the web page. This is the silliest thing I have seen. Give a bankrupt/startup joint venture a monthly fee to get a measly 10% discount on parts they may or may not be able to functionally produce. I can’t believe they actually all got together and decided this was the move. Pretty wild. I’ll put $200 a month on a side bet that says there’s going to be some angry participants of this membership. I hope lm wrong and they have a genius idea it’s real hard to envision.

@Echo I have been known to poke fun at misunderstandings and otherwise inappropriate circumstances , including my own. I’m just another bozo on the bus just trying not to take life too seriously. my 77J dukes is also a 2 wire motor.

lol I don’t think he’s listening. Maybe if you say it a third time.

Food for thought, I had an intermittent issue with gear going UP. I tapped on the contactors and voila! It went up! I replaced both for good measure. And then, it still didn’t work right. Long story short, the light tap of a hammer in the general area created enough vibration to break loose the real problem, that turned out to be a limit switch actuator. YRMV.

I don’t know much about chemical interactions but carbon breakdown is its primary use and design.

I’ve wondered why it hasn’t been discussed more. It’s a staple in the auto world. Pretty similar, is a petroleum product you can put pretty much anywhere.

Anyone suggesting a more up to date radar isn’t useful bc it’s only strategic and not tactical….. ok so what’s your preferred delay? lol. Crazy talk. The closer to real time the better. it would be great if they would make a remote antenna. I guess the unit technically is the antenna but they could separate the guts for more in a “mini mini” version. Not loving the idea of on the glare shield. Cirrus was way ahead of its time when it installed the top window in the back. heck I pay $60 a month for my crappy dsl internet at the hangar. Will be dual purpose if I get the star link rig. Pays for itself!

And funny cat videos

What service level? I heard you need the $250 /month variety for it to work at high speed.

This is an interesting topic and one I’ve been wondering about myself. I’ve been seeing larger than usual spotting in the hangar out the breather tube. Oil consumption is less than stellar somewhere in the 3-4 hours per quart range, oil analysis shows consistently high chrome, but Boroscopy hasn’t revealed any smoking guns so I haven’t worried about it too much just waiting on any further signs of distress. “Compressions” as the alt test that could isolate one cylinder hasn’t pointed one out. Gosh if we could just have a looksie at rings and cams without major surgery we’d nearly put the forums out of business bc there would be nothing to talk about. Haha. Air cooled piston aircraft engines are just a perfectionists nightmare.

We could get really philosophical. I find that there is about 10-20 hours per month for me that I ought to fill with something randomly useful. Airplanes, yard, house, car. Any more than that and I’m breaking into my own piggy bank and I’m better off paying someone else. Any less than that, I’m probably being lazy. It really serves as a change of pace, using different “muscles”, that refreshes me for lucrative work. But I don’t disagree with you. Some people are better off spending 50 hours a month being productive because they wouldn’t use the time to generate income anyway. Everybody is different. But, restoring an airplane is ALOT of time, so you either better enjoy it or simply have nothing better to do bc it’s way better value to just spend marginally more money on an active airplane. In my useless internet opinion, anyway.

It’s weird to me that people say, “if your an A&P or know an A&P who’d be willing to work with you…. It could be a good value”. My time isn’t free. I can work on my airplane with my time, or I can use my time to generate dollars. You aren’t getting a deal committing huge amounts of time to something. You are paying for it with your time, which could easily be used to generate money somewhere else. I do owner preventive maintenance a lot on my airplane. I do it for 3 reasons: I enjoy it, It’s less effort (we don’t have many available shop options close by), I become functionally more familiar with my airplane (and thus, safer). It has very little to do with being “cheaper”. It’s not.

Also concerned about this. All the others I’ve seen have been goofy looking when installed bc they are so long.