carusoam Posted January 21, 2022 Report Posted January 21, 2022 rb, I think we may be bumping into a price sensitivity issue…. Mulling the differences and price of F and J… Going the next step to a K is a great thing to cover… At least review the pros and cons before deciding on NA…. Best regards, -a-
Will.iam Posted January 21, 2022 Report Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, carusoam said: rb, I think we may be bumping into a price sensitivity issue…. Mulling the differences and price of F and J… Going the next step to a K is a great thing to cover… At least review the pros and cons before deciding on NA…. Best regards, -a- My dad had a J and i was really set on that but when i was looking to buy i found J models that where within 1k of 231 models when they were new commanded a10-15k premium. I guess the scare of more maintance cost and harder to operate drove the price down on the turbo model so much so i bought a turbo even though the majority of my missions are less than 2 hours flight time. I still enjoy getting to 12k quicker than i would have in a J for smoother air and cooler in the summer time heat as well as cruising at a speed faster at 12k than i could in a J but also paying for that in increased gas consumption. When i do get a trip that is longer than 2 hours going up past 12k gives me more and more speed at the same fuel burn as i would have at 12k. I really like having the option and choices a turbo offers even at the detriment of more maintenance cost is worth it to me. 1
Wildhorsetrail Posted January 24, 2022 Author Report Posted January 24, 2022 I'm a believer in less maintenance and maximum reliability and therefore want to avoid turbochargers and the like. It won't be like flying the mountains of Colorado. Almost all of the flying will be done in mountains under the 10k foot mark. Sent from my SM-A326U1 using Tapatalk
carusoam Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 Wait a sec… Mountains are mountains… some are as tall as 14k’…. If your mountains are only 10k’… Comparing to mountains in NJ… at 3 k’ Where the turbo adds value… is the altitudes where the NA engine’s climb rate can’t get you over the crummy weather hiding the mountains… Some use an extra pair of cylinders… to do the same… Why climb rate is the important part of the conversation… When the icing is in the clouds… ice accumulates at a certain rate…. You want your climb rate to exceed the icing to get on top… Of course… if you don’t fly in IMC… escaping icing is often a 180° turn kind of thing…. Best regards, -a- 1
Will.iam Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Wildhorsetrail said: I'm a believer in less maintenance and maximum reliability and therefore want to avoid turbochargers and the like. It won't be like flying the mountains of Colorado. Almost all of the flying will be done in mountains under the 10k foot mark. Sent from my SM-A326U1 using Tapatalk Yes I understand and thank you. Because most people don’t want the Maintanence of a turbo it has driven them down to almost J prices and allowed me to get way more plane than I could have.
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