Shadrach Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Quote: rbridges If I get a chance to use it. Right now, I'm sitting at full tanks (minus the weeping, of course), and Rome is only a little over an hour away. I agree, though. If I can get it down to under 10 gallons on landing, I probably won't worry about it. Quote
WardHolbrook Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Quote: rbridges If I get a chance to use it. Right now, I'm sitting at full tanks (minus the weeping, of course), and Rome is only a little over an hour away. I agree, though. If I can get it down to under 10 gallons on landing, I probably won't worry about it. Quote
lahso Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 My guess is that it makes his job easier, and will translate to a lower cost for you if he doesn't have to drain the tanks. Just show up with the minimum fuel required for your flight. I've had to do that a couple of times when he's patched my tanks. No big deal. If you want to save the fuel, drain into your own container and leave for him to replenish when the job is complete. Quote
richardheitzman Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 OMG please do not listen to anyone here who is trying to tell you how to siphone gas out of our aircraft. PLEASE! The worst fire I have ever seen and been in around aviation was due to someone draining fuel out of an aircraft into unapproved, ungrounded PLASTIC jugs that, due to static electricity, went off like a freaking bomb. If you do not have the correct equipment to remove fuel from an aircraft you DO NOT DO IT AT ALL. Draining fuel in a continuous flow into an ungrounded container builds up static electricity and you will burn your aircraft to the ground, espeically in cold, dry climate. Wow, Please do not advice someone to drain fuel, if you have no idea on how to do it safe. Just because you did it, and got away with it, does not mean you tell someone else how to do it. You are going to kill someone that way. and I say that with all my respect. Just stop it. Quote
carusoam Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Quote: Shadrach Words to live by! However, I would think most folks who've operated weedwackers, lawn mowers, tractors and chain saws have experience handling gas. Quote
Shadrach Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 Quote: carusoam Words to live by! However, I would think most folks who've operated weedwackers, lawn mowers, tractors and chain saws have experience handling gas. Quote
carusoam Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 Ross, When you carelessly light your lawn tractor on fire, you simply walk away. When you accidentally light your mooney on fire while removing sump drains it is too late to walk away. I have seen a crispy lawn tractor, I worked with the mechanic who later accidentally used the electric screw driver, I have seen a neighbor's boat burnt to the waterline. They all have one thing in common, an accident while transferring fuel. So for most people, I ask that they use caution. This advice was not meant for you, it was meant for the OP who was trying to weigh the value of draining and re-using fuel. You won't find an argument with me here. Sorry You can't light my fire on this one. My vapor pressure is much lower than yours.... Best regards, -a- Quote
Shadrach Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 a, I meant no disrespect. No pressure here... If my post seemed antagonistic, please accept my apology. I sincerely was not trying to light your or anyone else's fire, nor was I trying to appear cavalier. I probably should have stressed some of the other risks more thoroughly. Quote
orangemtl Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 So, a lit Lucky Strike dangling from the corner of my lip while siphoning: good idea, or no? Quote
orangemtl Posted October 14, 2011 Report Posted October 14, 2011 So, a lit Lucky Strike dangling from the corner of my lip while siphoning: good idea, or no? Quote
rob Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 Quote: orangemtl So, a lit Lucky Strike dangling from the corner of my lip while siphoning: good idea, or no? Quote
jetdriven Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 So what about draining the fuel, outside, and into a grounded metal can. ground the can to the airplane. We fuel airplanes this way. Quote
DaV8or Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 The two times I had fuel drained at shops, the technique was the same. Unscrew the sump and drain straight into an ordinary 5 gallon plastic bucket. Nobody ever grounded anything and yeah, when the five gallon bucket got full, the mechanic got gas on himself screwing the sump back in. The gas in the bucket was then poured through an ordinary funnel into a plastic 55 gallon drum. In both cases, the plane was pulled to the open door of the hangar for this operation. Pretty crude, but that's what was done. Not saying it's right or wrong, just what the "pros" did. Again, with a little filtration, I would have no problems using that fuel over. I wished I'd had that option. About $200 worth of gas went down the drain. Quote
jetdriven Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 Right. Dangerous for you to drain out the gas, but that's how the shop is going to do it, but the fuel is going into their tug, not your plane. Enjoy subsidizing the shop. I thought thats what the 75$ an hour was for. Quote
Shadrach Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 Both of the shop owners on our field are also aircraft owners. One has a 210, the other a 182 and a Seneca. I've never, in the last 2 decades, seen either of them at the self serve nor seen a fuel truck at either shop. Quote
Shadrach Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 Quote: DaV8or The two times I had fuel drained at shops, the technique was the same. Unscrew the sump and drain straight into an ordinary 5 gallon plastic bucket. Nobody ever grounded anything and yeah, when the five gallon bucket got full, the mechanic got gas on himself screwing the sump back in. The gas in the bucket was then poured through an ordinary funnel into a plastic 55 gallon drum. In both cases, the plane was pulled to the open door of the hangar for this operation. Pretty crude, but that's what was done. Not saying it's right or wrong, just what the "pros" did. Again, with a little filtration, I would have no problems using that fuel over. I wished I'd had that option. About $200 worth of gas went down the drain. Quote
Shadrach Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 Quote: jetdriven So what about draining the fuel, outside, and into a grounded metal can. ground the can to the airplane. We fuel airplanes this way. Quote
DrBill Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 During my prebuy, the mechanic filled both tanks. Then we found the left fuel sensor leaked so he drained it into multiple 5 gal plastic cans. Then he put it back in when done. Did not waste a gallon. Gone thru 150 gal since then. No issues. Dr Bill Quote
DaV8or Posted October 15, 2011 Report Posted October 15, 2011 Quote: jetdriven Right. Dangerous for you to drain out the gas, but that's how the shop is going to do it, but the fuel is going into their tug, not your plane. Enjoy subsidizing the shop. I thought thats what the 75$ an hour was for. Quote
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