Miami_Mooniac

We all hope there far and few in between, but as @gsxrpilot also confirms it, it's not as uncommon as you might imply. The reason I bring it up in the first place is because an A&P mechanic friend of mine that actually works on GA aircraft and mooneys(my job is withe wide-bodies) advised me to go ahead with a pre-buy on an potential a/c I wanted to purchase. The 69 M20C Mooney was coming out of an annual and (with your same original logic @A64Pilot) I thought why do a pre-buy if it just came out of an annual right..? Well as many have advised here, an annual is just MINIMUM to keep it legally flying, and a PPI inspection is more for ACTUAL condition of the whole aircraft,airworthiness items and squawks. So now I know better Very grateful for your words here and will take this wisdom with me for a transparent purchase process of my first aircraft! BTW,I did start a thread in the classifieds if anybody sees a 65-67 M20C, I would be grateful for the tip!

I dont think I can clarify the title anymore, but would appreciate if someone did find this and send me a PM to give your bird an honest offer! or just give me a pointer in the right direction to a tip you have heard about, that would be greatly appreciated! Anyone at your airfield,a friend of a friends? Maybe your girlfriends cousins brothers dogs sitters friend is ready to give a soon to be Private Pilot(Student Pilot waiting on Medical for solo flights) a chance at a miracolous aircraft?! I would even entertain the idea at a partnership in South Florida if I got so lucky.. Please and Thank You! -Michael Brian David 786.560.1107

I JUST finished reading the whole thread, and it seems overall that even though as you say an annual is federally mandated, some owners can work with the IA to get it to "pass" this inspection(something us A&P's call "pencil whipping") just to keep the a/c flying. This is unfortunate and at the IA's discretion and danger of legal enforcement. Where as a "pre-buy" or PPI is requested on the buyers behalf to better assess the condition and state of the purchase he/she is planning to take on, in hopes of also being able to negotiate the purchase price if anything major comes up. I guess if specified, the buyer can have it become an annual since there are very similar items being "examined" in the PPI and "inspected" in the annual. Also seems like there are very bad scenarios that fortunately for us MSers are sharing where they have found that a pre-buy which should ALWAYS be paid for by the buyer and annual which should most always be paid for by the seller sometimes have had mixed results and have not gone that way. NOW, would anybody with sufficient knowledge and experience in these interactions draft up a reccommded basic purchase agreement in their knowledge works best for both parties involved subject to change by the buyer and seller?

I SECOND THIS!

Are you still considering selling it, or maybe already sold? @graybob1?

found @chriscalandro. Thanks again! @carusoam

Fair enough, I appreciate the tip. Will not forget this one!

I'm intrigued! If he hasnt jumped on it already, PM me please!

I'll bump this topic for a similar request Already messaged @chriscalandro

What about a list of A&P's that are willing to do pre-buys? I'm a certified A&P but work mainly on wide-bodies and wouldnt trust myself to do the pre-buy on my own Mooney coming home. Will also need a CFII for the transition training depending on where the final aircraft will be brought from(TBD). Would like to be ahead of the curve when the next opportunity pops up and be ready to go as airplanes have been snatched up quite quickly as of late Many Thanks

Thank you for the confidence Hank! I really appreciate the following Mooney has(kind like the Prius following, I have one too) and appreciate the solid aircraft it is! Just had the insurance lady talk to me as if I was crazy to get into one so soon, but I had a feeling I couldnt be so out of my head! Exactly why I'm on the boat! and determined to find my beauty! 172's are going for similar and insane prices, but slower and with similar or more fuel(as you have confirmed) So thanks again, and hope to update my photo with my own M20C soon enough!

I guess thats a,Im too busy building these RV's and would assume it did sell..

Update the title please! Had my hopes up reading through 3 pages to find out it was finally sold 3 months agooo

Hello Everyone My name is Michael David based in Miami as an A&P Technician on wide-bodies(mainly B767) at Miami International Airport(MIA). I currently fly at KTMB as a student pilot and am waiting on my medical for my solo flights. Have always wanted to own my own aircraft as my grandfather was a DC-3 pilot for LAN back in the days. As I'm almost there with my PPL, I'm hoping to get my hands on the the most economical,decent useful load, fastest small plane there is(without getting into experimentals..) So far my research shows me a M20C Ranger(hopefully65-67) is my best bet! Had one in Tenneessee that almost worked out,but seems like the owner choose otherwise. Maybe I should post elsewhere for my question but.. am I crazy to want to own and fly a complex retract coming out of PPL training with no retract time?