jkhirsch

Preacing to the choir but enjoy that scenery and enjoy the plane. Oh yeah and your homework is to carefully log your performance on the way home and report back

Any thoughts on the psuedo-synthetic vision on the Aera, would that be a sticking point, does it add any value in terrain avoidance? How about the actual function of the touchscreen, can it be calibrated, is it well calibrated, is it as responsive as everyone as grown to expect with the iPads?

You make a good point on the engine running paradigm. That's a good perspective, get all of your flight planning truly done before you get in the plane. Apparently I understand now that the FlightSteam has 2 way communication abilities, whereas the GDL39 is one-way into a device? In a sense I guess the GDL 39 is being replaced by the flight stream? Minus the GDL 39 is WAAS antenna? That's good insight Mo.

All else aside you like the 750 in favor of the 650 though? It literally must just come down to shelling out for the bigger screen, specs are identical from garmin. I was parts only on the GDL price. I guess without re-reading I'm still unclear on whether the 330ES completely satisfies the In/Out capabilities. It's hard to get that excited about it when you know you aren't going to spend the money tomorrow.

What's the difference between the flight stream and the GDL 39? At a very brief glance they look strikingly similar. You're absolutely right about that stupid quote I put on the 330, I have full intentions of getting the 330ES and didn't correctly articulate that. I'm not totally sold on the idea of using the peripheral equipment, I hate yoke mount stuff. I know it's cheaper and maybe even illogical but I'd rather it be a part of the plane. I want to get in and turn it on, not drag everything around on each end of the trip, 1 switch for me please, Avionics Master. I know it'll be taking a switch to my wallet, but those are my personal preferences. In my personal life I'm honestly kind of a technology dinosaur, I don't have an ipad. I do have a surface, but I don't really want that stuff in my plane. I like task driven devices over multi-tasking devices, I know it's backwards, but sometimes it's simpler. I use the golfGPS as an example, I don't want to run my cell down everytime I hit the links, give me a dedicated golf gps...or clearly a laser rangefinder. One of the things I learned from Cisco is to consider Scalability/Adaptability, if I buy this how does it limit what I can do in the future.

I did search this in our own community and bore no juicy fruit... I've always had this question, and probably half of the reason I've never purchased one... A few years into this, what are people's thoughts on the Garmin Aera 796 vs the Garmin GPSmap 696? Every time I look into buying one I lean towards the 696, but the lack of a touchscreen I think has always caused me to pause, hoping for garmin to release a magical harmony of the two devices. Reviews I've read on the 796 in the past lead me to believe it's touchscreen abilities were rudimentary. I don't think I've actually had an hesitation on the 696 other than being locked into buttons.

Is the 650 more of a replacement for the 430? Do you find yourself thinking about the 750? .....I also think about not having to scroll the alphabet to make inputs. I feel like the size of a 430 with a touchscreen would be pretty practical, unless you just get a pants tent for bigger screens. I think it's one of those deals where once I go to spend the money...I'll say why bother being cheap about it. Since I've already gotten out of scope, anyone have experience with the entire flight deck set up? How do those all play together? What kind of absurd cost are you talking about then?

Hate to bump and old thread and make such a comment, but I think I just figured out why rocky got harassed by the CBP earlier this year...

I'll second that, but if he hasn't already weighed those outcomes, I believe in letting people make their own choices/mistakes.

Negative But as far as my knowledge goes, there has been no legitmate reason to walk away from the airplane at this point.

I'm opening this theorectical question up for commentary which was prompted by a $6100 530W yellow tag on ebay right now. My inclincation for an ads-b compliant system would be this: (this would also serve as a nice gps upgrade from a 155tso) ~7k - 530W (flew 300 hours with a 430 and it was ok) ~4k - GDL 88 (according to garmin) ~3k - GTX 330 That puts you at ~14k in parts? Is it worth it, or does the GTN provide additional marginal value? No clue what GTN/Suite would accomplish that same thing, nor the price tag on it. Again, I'm not really doing this I'm just looking for other peoples' thought processes as they would dig into the research. Edit: Apologize if this belongs in the Avionics section. Feel free to relocate it.

Don't let these guys get you all distraught over nothing. He's been a pain in the ass...whoopty-doo, maintain perspective and it's truly no skin off your back. The important thing, like I said before is to have your expectations in line with the possible outcomes, be prepared to walk away, but don't walk away over some humpty dumpty nonsense. Don't get on some high horse thinking you can "punish" this guy by not buying his plane. Forget all the buyers market sellers market, if it's a good plane and well maintained someone is going to buy it, that someone might as well be you. However if he balks at important things, like having a PPI/Annual done correctly, that's where you begin to have concern. As far as brokers go, they all want the easy route and everyone to be happy, therefore they speak out of both sides of their mouths at times to accomplish that. (Total aside: the FAA recognizes a PPI just as they do an annual) Put pressure on the broker to keep facilitating the deal, and keep moving down the road towards the purchase. If he's unwilling to cooperate with the necessary requirements draw your line somewhere that potentially puts you at financial or personal health risk. Don't get caught up in the noise and foolish groupthink, I'm assuming you've found the plane that you think is right for you and the deal is moving along. It might not be at the pace or pleasantry that we would all like, but to be colloquial and hokey-good things are generally worth waiting for.

Welcome to airplane ownership. Some guys have great planes they bought from great people, some don't. (sorry everyone's plane is great in their eyes) You have to align your expectations correctly, you need to be mentally and emotionally prepared to 100% walk away after the pre-buy creates issues, assuming he continues down his displayed course of behavior. If you don't you will be miserable.

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Maybe this has been covered, maybe it's not relevant. I have seen some sites where the chat feature in a side pane so that people can use it while browsing the forums or other pages. It could be because I'm younger, or sit on Bloomberg half of my day, but I like the chat feature and it seems underused. If it's overly technically complicated, or there is zero demand for it I understand, but I certainly wouldn't mind making small talk with people once in a while that doesn't warrant a post.

Does it burn Jet-A and cruise at 300kts on pressurization while carrying realistic people and bags on a trip? I may be mistaken here but I'll pass in favor of something useful for that dollar handle.

I think it's pretty straightforward, many people have different fiscal considerations.

As far as certified... The Deb or the Cardinal/Cardinal RG. I have been led to believe you would get similar fuel burn and performance from both with the speed nod likely to the Deb. If I had found a Cardinal with specs I was looking for I may well have ended up with that instead of my F. Even with all the nonsense surrounding my plane I still feel that I got pretty lucky for what I spent to acquire it and the features it has. I had honestly never even looked at Mooney's until the last minute because I never thought I could get everything I wanted in my price range. Then one day Al struck me with a lightning bolt. I can't make an intelligent comment about the comparable costs or specs of experimentals.

I usually try to put people in the back seats to form a nice barrier from the luggage.

Seatbelts? Is that an option Mooneys?

I just follow the interstates...

Are you guys planning on crashing?

Agreed...I'll take as much technology as is fiscally feasible, but there's a long list of people with their hands out at the end of the rainbow.

I thought it was a good joke.

24 I'm worried less about the persistence of technology than the persistence of profits for all of those who benefit from us being required to have it.