bjmacdonald Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 I was wondering if some one could shed some light when external power recepticals were added to Mooneys, was it after the battery was moved to the back or was it avail before that. I would love to install one and my AP says if it was avail on my model we can get the parts and it only a log book entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 My 1965 got one added early in it's life. It is a tight spot between the leading edge and a turning prop. (experienced aviators and mechanics only!!!) It is wired for starting only, solenoid switches do not allow battery charging this way. Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danb35 Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 My '67 F didn't come with the external power jack, but it was added at the end of the year. The logbook entry references a 337, and the 337 says it was installed IAW Mooney drawing # 950086. If that drawing's still available from the factory, it should list the parts required (and I wouldn't think a 337 should be required for the installation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 You know, that's not a bad idea. Sure beats taking the panel off to hook up external power supplies if your doing avionics training and don't want to run the battery down. I need to look into this mod as well. My hangar neighbor has one on his '65 E. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danb35 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 A PM to Stacy Ellis (sellis here, if memory serves) would likely get the drawings for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Dan, you can’t expect Stacey to do that. Without following the proper information release process could get somebody fired. The request needs to go through the company and released in accordance with company procedures. The information is proprietary to MAC. I’m just thankful he is here and offers advice when he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I'm interested in this mod too. Dead batteries are always a possibility and the ability to fiddle with avionics with the engine off is attractive. I've seen it installed on the '67 F they have at Top Gun. It's pretty slick with a little flap that covers the receptical. If anyone here has done it, besides the proceedure to get it done, I'd like to know cost too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjmacdonald Posted December 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 So what your saying i can call Mooney and ask for the drawings if available for a 63C external power recep. and if it was ever installed they will provide drawing and part numbers. If not i have to make up the drawings and submit to FSDO for a 337 install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danb35 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Quote: tony Dan, you can’t expect Stacey to do that. Without following the proper information release process could get somebody fired. The request needs to go through the company and released in accordance with company procedures. The information is proprietary to MAC. I’m just thankful he is here and offers advice when he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danb35 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Quote: bjmacdonald So what your saying i can call Mooney and ask for the drawings if available for a 63C external power recep. and if it was ever installed they will provide drawing and part numbers. If not i have to make up the drawings and submit to FSDO for a 337 install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert14 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I have a factory external power plug on my 65 M20E. It "does not" allow for a "jump start" of the engine. There is a relay in the circuit that "disconnects" the starting/battery circuit and bypasses the master switch when external 14V is applied. I use a Spruce 14V power supply to plug into the port on the right side of the plane just behind the wing trailing edge. I have spent many hours using this feature to famialize myself with operation of my Garmin 430 and SL30. To jump start my engine, I still have to remove the access panel (behind the left wing) to the battery and use standard jumper cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeano Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I have one on my 63c but havn't been able to locate the log entry when it was installed. I'll see what I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjmacdonald Posted December 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Eldeano is your plug in the front under the battery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeano Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 No, on top behind a small access door on a bracket. I'll get pictures next time I'm at the hanger. I emailed the former owner, he had it installed for a solar battery charger he had on the top of his hanger. It was installed at Lake Aero in California in 2002 in conjunction with the new panel. Work order 02-12 they may still have it on file. It references a power plug kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 Quote: robert14 I have a factory external power plug on my 65 M20E. It "does not" allow for a "jump start" of the engine. There is a relay in the circuit that "disconnects" the starting/battery circuit and bypasses the master switch when external 14V is applied. I use a Spruce 14V power supply to plug into the port on the right side of the plane just behind the wing trailing edge. I have spent many hours using this feature to famialize myself with operation of my Garmin 430 and SL30. To jump start my engine, I still have to remove the access panel (behind the left wing) to the battery and use standard jumper cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLRDMD Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 Quote: DaV8or Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danb35 Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 Quote: KLRDMD You can jump start the airplane with the external power receptacle I have ('67F). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 Quote: KLRDMD You can jump start the airplane with the external power receptacle I have ('67F). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbreda Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 I did this modification using Mooney parts (removed from an Ovation), DER approval and 337. You can e-mail me at johnabreda@yahoo.com if you want to chat more about this. John Breda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N601RX Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 I think Aircraft Spruce has the receptcial, but if you are just wanting the ability to power you electronics while on the ground it would be easier and cheaper to put a cigarett lighter plug on the end of a small battery charger and keep the battery charged that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N601RX Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 http://aircraft-spruce.com/menus/el/jumpercablesplugs_receptacles.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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