BrianNC

Great video. You have the camera mounted above your head?

I'm pretty sure they don't. I commented about this on this video in Youtube. You may as well be pencil-whipping the logbook. Unless they do allow it, then forget my remark.

As a matter of fact one of the owners is a CFI and would be giving me the checkout in the plane. So flying with an owner is a done deal. The main owner is a pretty new regional pilot for Southwest. Flew it 150 hours the first year he had it. Then he went to sky mapping to build hours to go to a regional. So he personally doesn't fly it much now.

I was thinking some of that myself. It's not a huge buy-in. And like you said, sounds pretty good. And it's a nice 'modern' M20C. The post is mainly to see if there were any serious caveats from anyone. And of course the positive which you pointed out. Thanks for the thoughts.

I have the opportunity to buy into a quarter ownership of a '63 M20C, and wanted to run it by you guys to see what you thought about this Mooney. Never been a plane owner. I have a little over 300 hours (over a 40 year period, having flown about 80-90 of that in the past year or so, commercial certificate, instrument rated, and 63 years old for whatever that's worth. I currently belong to a flying club that charges $75 an hour wet for a well-equipped 180HP C172, with a $70 a month fee. Buy-in was $400. Probably about 30-40 members in the club. I'm a weekday flyer mostly so the plane is pretty available if I want it, but a little harder actually using it for a several day trips unless you book out at least 3 weeks in advance, but there is a 2 hour minimum per day. I'm including that info as a contrast to what the Mooney would be costing me and availability. First about the '63 M20C. It has a nose cowl mod that looks more like a J Mooney. "The aircraft was re-manufactured at the Mooney factory in Texas in 2003. The engine, prop, panel, fuel tanks, and the interior were all re-done. The exterior was also repainted as well as the inside of the fuselage. It has all the gap seals and all J model mods." Panel is modern with modern layout and modern yokes. Looks really good. TT: 4800 or so TBO: 2699+. This was about a year ago. Owner said the has a $15k line of credit for emergencies and if a new engine is needed, the difference between that $15k and what the engine cost would be split among the other 3 owners. Sounds like he knows the engine with need an overhaul sooner rather than later and willing to cover 15k of it because of that. Of course all these details would be discussed thoroughly and understood before buying in. AvionicsGarmin 430 non-waasKing 155 nav/comKing HSI King glide slope indicatorKing transponderStec-50 autopilot (3 axis and approach mode) ADS-B compliantEngineTT:2699, oil changes every 50 hours and oil analysis. All Compression 73 or better last annual.No ADs. PropTT:2699, has a slight grease leak on one bladeNo ADsLast annualFresh tires on all gear.Prop governor was overhauled.AD for gear rigging was performed. Gear rigging was intolerance.New cable for the cowl flaps due to old cable fraying.SquawksOne of the prop blades has a grease leak around the hub.Altitude hold on the autopilot will not work below degrees 40F. That was a little over a year ago when I first began talking to the seller. Current annual and maintenance done: "There were three major items that were discovered and allcorrected. Item one was engine mounts sagging. Replaced those. Item 2 corrosion inside the roll cage. It was about a quarter inch of corrosion. Repaired that and no further corrosion was found. The major item was a crack between the spar and flap assembly. We think someone stepped on the flap and damaged it. That was a very costly fix. Other items they replaced were,Fuel caps assemblies Gear lock mechanism But since then we have a failed servo for the GPS function on the autopilot (asked about this and said the heading and altitude still work, but the nav function doesn't). Heading, approach, and altitude mode still work. Also had the main fuel pump fail. We replaced it with a remanufactured one. Still running strong on the same engine. No issues other than the fuel pump. Said the plane is flown a few times a month. Can take it on trips as long as I want, which is the main reason I would want it. I have a couple of 10 day or so trips I'd like to do a year, and trips of 2-4 days from time to time. And time building. I'd like to get a 135 job or something similar. Just a dream right now. It may or may not pan out. Buy in $7.5k. $135 a month, and haven't reverified this, but $35 an hour. The seller may even be a member here. No ill will here. This is an important decision for me. Don't have the funds to own a plane by myself, so a partnership is the way to go for me. Just getting the advice of people more experienced than I am. My main concern is the engine. So first, how does the plane sound? And second, the buy-in seem reasonable, and how does this compare to the way I am renting now? I know nothing about buying a plane in case you were wondering, which you probably can tell already.

Do you detail this anywhere to read?

This.

I assume it's plastic. It's a Warrior. If it's something else I guess I'll just mount it upright on the glare shield. And I'll take some floss with me just in case.

I was actually wondering about this. I'm getting my GoPro this week and doing a thorough IPC next weekend and I wanted to record it, but it's in somebody else's plane. I wanted to mount it upside down from the ceiling from behind to get the panel and out the front view, but was wondering how difficult it is to get off. I can't mount it with screws. Maybe just not press it on too hard?

Just ordered. Thanks!

Ah...ok. So that was really camera positioning as opposed to the view chosen. Good to know then. I may still try the linear view then with the less wide angle.

@Marauder Did you see my post above yours? We posted at the same time just now.

Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of using the linear setting which doesn't have as much wide angle. But I see with your wide angle there is more straight ahead view out the window than your top video with a medium setting. So it's looking like I should use it on the widest angle. The 7 has 3 views, linear, wide, and superview. So I assume superview is going to give me the more straight ahead view out the window.

I just ordered a 7 black. Does the 'sticky' mount that comes with it work good enough to mount on the overhead panel? Also, does that mounting show the panel and a good outside shot without outside being washed out because of too much light?

Which do you find you use the most? I can buy an 8, 16, or 32 individually for about $27. The one you use in the video looks pretty good. Really smooths it out.

@Rmag I noticed when taking the pics with your iPhone you held up a filter in front of the lens that looks like it's made for the GoPro to 'hide' the propellor blade. What filter is that, i'e., model or name and where do you get it? Thanks!

I was about to make this same post. Dad died a couple of years ago at 94 and I really regret never having him fly with me. As a matter of fact I just wish I had done more with him period now that he's gone.

Speaking of N1173G, here is the video of him picking up the plane with Josh Flowers (Aviation101) to get it back home.

So you have these people close by in Dalton: https://www.coleaviation.com

Hey, Jesse, just saw this thread. I actually follow you already on Instagram even though I just saw this. The thread is a little long and I don't want to read the whole thing. lol. So a question that might be answered in the thread: How do you monetize the website or the business? Are you charging for listings? Through advertising on your site? Just curious.

6 Hours? Dang. Mine was an hour and a half in a 182RG. lol.

Sorry if this has already been posted but I didn't see it. Anyone know the details of this? Should two of these be selling that low everything else being equal? http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-for-sale/MOONEY-M20L-PFM/1987-MOONEY-M20L-PFM/1311753.htm

Pelican's Perch #7: Run That Fuel Tank Dry! John Deakin http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/182044-1.html?redirected=1

Quote: jnisley I used Gleim for my PPL and King for my IR, I put my heart into it, studied hard and passed both easily. I must admit that I memorized some of the answers rather then spent time learning the concepts on several of the topics.

I've used them for all my 'writtens' (Private, Instrument and Commercial, although I haven't gotten the commercial rating yet) and used them in conjunction with the Gleim book for each rating. I go through the King course, answer those questions, then answer all the questions on the software for the Gleim, print out the endorsment, and go take the test. Always made in the 90s.