rickseeman

That makes perfect sense. The line: "Boost pump to prime until you see stable fuel flow" is missing from my POH and the other serial number POH that I have. Thank you.

It appears I'm not very good with a search box either. I tried "how do you start an ovation" and got no hits and then "starting ovation" and got no hits. I heard about pilots skills diminishing but.....

I'll do a search. Thanks

That may sound stupid but I consider the POH to be my source for how to operate the airplane and I can't figure it out. I've read the Engine Start in Normal Procedures 50 times and I still don't get it. There is nothing there about priming. (It does say low boost pump on during start sequence.) My M20F, 231 or Bonanzas wouldn't start without priming and I can't believe this thing will either. So before I run both batterys dead cranking/under-priming/over-priming/flooded engine/fire trucks I think the prudent thing to do is ask the MS braintrust for advise. Normal start, hot start, cold day (30 degree) normal start. I have a feeling there's people here that have done this before. Thanks.

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I think the tug is called a Get Jet or something like that. It's yellow and uses a hyd jack to pick up the front wheel. Works great for my application.

By the way the only Gill sealed battery that I ever bought didn't last very long. Was that a freak thing or are they not as good? It seems like everybody is liking Concordes now.

Winter was coming on so my buddy bought a new Concorde for this 172. I think his Gill is still good, especially for starting my 8HP tug.

I don't think my tug has an alternator so I need to either charge after use or use a maintainer. Is it ok to use an automotive maintainer on these lead acid Gills? Thanks

The item you have circled is 4 items after you are on final. How fast are you going on final?

This seems to be a common question from people used to other brands. On some other brands the white band is the "full flap operating range." But you and I have read the Ovation manual 10 times and all we can find is the white band is the "flap operating range". Yes, it's different from what we're used to but everything will be just fine. White arc in the Ovation is the flap operating range. See, it's easy. Forget anything else. If you have the burning desire to drop some flaps at higher speeds maybe later in life you will get a P-51. Then you can drop the first notch of flaps at 400 indicated.

Who makes those sexy looking wingtip LED'S? Thanks

The strange thing to me is how an Ovation (according to the POH) can do 178 knots at 20,000 ft. Shocking to me. Not to mention I think the fuel flow is sub 10GPH.

I've done it many times and everything was fine. But once it wouldn't charge after starting. I couldn't figure it out. So I asked around. Someone told me if it's dead dead, when you start it with the GPU, on some airplanes (it happened to be a Baron) there isn't any voltage in the battery to "excite" the alternator and it won't kick on. So I gave the batterys a slight charge, started with the GPU, and went on my merry way. My brother leaves the master on more often than me. I liked the strobe idea above.

I understand that some people don't understand. I'm ok with that. I'm sure they want some things that I can't understand why they would want that. Las Vegas to Arkansas is 6-8 hours depending on your Mooney model. I have no interest is landing where it's 30 degrees and howling wind outside just to refuel.

When I got my high performance/retract signoff my instructor said that most high performance/retracts want you to carry some power to land, then chop the power at touchdown. It sounds like that program would help your situation.

I've flown with a lot of good pilots but, not to belittle other pilots, Ed was the best. By a long shot. His level of experience was basically unbelievable and unobtainable. B-36 FE, B-58. Decades of instructing. I took his King Air course twice. Ed actually KNEW what was going on in the airplane. And he loved Mooneys.