jetpilot12 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Posted December 23, 2013 Hello All, I'm buying a 1963 M20C after the first of the year. As an A&P I will be doing the pre buy myself. Other than the obvious things to look for, what should I be concerned about when looking at the M20C? Thank you, Jon Quote
orionflt Posted December 23, 2013 Report Posted December 23, 2013 Make sure you read up on the service bulletins for corrosion in the tubular structure, especially since the airplane is out of Florida. also look at the spar areas and open the access panels around the fuel tank area to look for fuel leaks and seeps.... make sure the tanks are topped off, they have a tendency to leak near the top of the tank. i have a 62 C and i have been all thru mine several time so i can probable help you with any specific questions you may come up with. I do not know how in depth you want to go on your pre buy, but i recommend pulling the belly (time consuming pain but worth it) and the forward and mid interior panels to get a good look at the tubular structure. Brian Quote
BigTex Posted December 23, 2013 Report Posted December 23, 2013 Hello All, I'm buying a 1963 M20C after the first of the year. As an A&P I will be doing the pre buy myself. Other than the obvious things to look for, what should I be concerned about when looking at the M20C? Thank you, Jon Even though your an A&P I would still recommend taking it to a MSC to check it out. There are a lot of Mooney specific items that unless you work on them all them time, you could over look. Have someone like Don Maxwell fly it. He'll know before leaving the pattern if it's a good plane. Quote
pirate Posted December 23, 2013 Report Posted December 23, 2013 Most any smart / competent A&P should be able to do a pre buy on a Mooney. Basic AD's, service bulletins and general corrosion inspections of airframe, spar, tanks etc. Congrats Quote
rbridges Posted December 23, 2013 Report Posted December 23, 2013 corrosion was the first thing that came to mind, too. fuel leaks are another big item. Quote
jetpilot12 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Posted December 23, 2013 So far everyone is telling me what I wanted to hear. Corrosion, fuel leaks and tubular structure. I have a shop setup at Ft. Myer's to do a compression check, oil change and mag check. I also have a full list of service bulletins and AD's to check for. Quote
orionflt Posted December 23, 2013 Report Posted December 23, 2013 where will you be based out of if and when you buy it? Quote
orionflt Posted December 23, 2013 Report Posted December 23, 2013 Quick run down of the accident history, i would take a real good look at the logs and ensure the proper tear down and inspections had been done. if they just did the run out and replaced the pin in the crank (previous standard requirements) i would consider walking away, but with 1500+ hours on the engine you could just go right for the overhaul. also the price is high for the damage history and the engine time. ------- FAA Accident/Incident 1 ------- Occurrence Date 1988-10-30 Aircraft Make MOONEY Aircraft Model M20C Damage MINOR Document Last Modified 2012-08-08 Narrative GEAR COLLAPSED ON ROLLOUT. PILOTS STATED THAT GEAR WAS DOWN AND LOCKED. GEAR CHECK ON JACKS INDICATED NORMAL GEAR. ***** No NTBS Accidents Found ***** ------- NTBS Pre 1982 Accident 1 ------- Qccurrence Date 1967-12-27 Aircraft Make MOONEY Aircraft Model M20C Aircraft Serial Number Damage SUBSTANTIAL Accident Location SPRINGFIELD,VT Occurrences HARD LANDING GEAR COLLAPSED Phase of Flight LANDING - LEVEL OFF/TOUCHDOWN LANDING - ROLL Causes IMPROPER RECOVERY FROM BOUNCED LANDING OVERLOAD FAILURE Narrative ACFT PORPOISED ON LNDG. ------- NTBS Pre 1982 Accident 2 ------- Qccurrence Date 1967-05-05 Aircraft Make MOONEY Aircraft Model M20C Aircraft Serial Number Damage SUBSTANTIAL Accident Location SO.HACKENSACK,NJ Occurrences GEAR RETRACTED Phase of Flight LANDING - ROLL Causes GEAR LOCKING MECHANISM BINDING LACK OF LUBRICATION-SPECIFIC PART,NOT SYSTEM INADEQUATE MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTION Narrative FROZEN BEARING PREVENTED COMPLETE ENGAGEMENT OFTHE LOCK MECHANISM PAST OVERCENTER. Quote
jetpilot12 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Posted December 23, 2013 I will be based out of Crowley, Louisiana Quote
jetpilot12 Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Posted December 23, 2013 Orionflt, Please send me an email at marfly3@bellsouth.net I have a few questions if you don't mind. Quote
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