AndyFromCB

Actually, my blood pressure was just fine during the 8 years of Bush. Didn't affect me one bit. I cashed out of the market in early 2007. I hopefully will never be needing an abortion but should than need arise, it's amazing what money will buy. Let's ban abortion, let's ban birth control. Let it run wild for a while. Then watch your blood pressure explode when it your early 60's you are taxed to absolute death when the poor masses decide to vote themselves 70% of your wealth to support their meager existence. Be careful what you wish for. Also, don't hold your breath, the religious right is losing it's grip pretty quickly. Remember who owns Scott Walker. If Koch brothers ever have their way, IUDs will be mandatory for everyone. Scott W doesn't do anything without first checking in with the mahouts.

You're free to believe what you want. We've had in Iowa for how long now? Years. Two two dogs and cats are still not sleeping together.

All this too shall pass. What are we going to be arguing about 10 years from now? Personally I think it will be whether the Canadians really deserve all that now empty but not longer covered by permafrost land. I'm all for it. Let's invade Canada.

Why be so jaded, John. You know it's possible that most of them are not doing it just to piss you off...

The fed and/or state government are unfortunately not a club you get to opt out off, as much as it pains both of us...The only proven afterlife so far is the probate court...

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Show me where a law was proposed to force any church to marry or recognize any marriage? How would you even go about it? Well, yes, as marriage actually happens, at least from the legal point of view, to be most important when it's in or about to be in past tense, as in divorce or death.

Cause I like saying "Bullshit, Scott". Might even get a bumper sticker.

Bullshit Scott, Marriage is not a religious thing, not for everyone. 16% of married Americans are not religious and did not have a religious marriage. I did not. We had a civil marriage with all the rights it entails. It's still a marriage, well, maybe not in the eyes of the Lord but his opinion does not matter here. For all intents and purposes, it is a marriage, in the yes of the law. We did not steal the word from the Catholic church. The concept existed long before the church did. Did people marry BC? Yes they did. Under Roman law, it was a civil contract. No one in the LGBT community wants to force any church to recognize anything by the force of law. The churches are private institutions and can do as they please. Nothing stops the LGBT community from lobbying said churches and some are more open to the idea than others. It's called freedom. But for as long as government offers goodies to married couples, the government has no right to deny any two people that right. Actually, that is incorrect. I am a strong believer the states have a right to deny anyone a right to get married in their state. However, due to equal process clause of the constitution, even the states that deny a right to get married in their states to certain group, must still recognize marriages performed in another states for all purposes of their laws. Some states allow cousins to marry, some don't, but all will divorce them. Should be identical with gay marriage. Let's get the state out of the marriage business and out of the church business. Tax everyone equally.

And if they can swing for it financially, more power to them. None of your business. At least the child will come with a price tag, so they are more likely to take care of it. Straight people have been doing it for years. It's called having a mistress, a pool boy and a bastard. I have a great idea. No special rules and regulations of marriage what so ever. None, zero. No additional costs and no additional benefits. Write a contract, with as many involved parties as you want. Shit, turn marriage into an INC or an LLC. Mr and Mrs Smith, LLC. Solves the problem of inheritance instantly.

Chipping away at what? Your ideal society? Skiing ice can be fun if you have sharp edges...Sorry buddy, if I get can cancer in the future, I want the best science can deliver. And if that means research on embryonic stem cells donated by consenting adult, it's none of your business. You do not get to dictate what research a private company gets to do. You do not get to play "god" in another couple's reproductive decisions because of some papal decree. He gets to decree whatever he wants to about lalaland in the afterlife. On this planet, he gets to decide what art work in hang in the Vatican and that's it. What about freedom don't you understand? Same with everything else. Unless you can directly prove that whatever it is I am doing, directly adversly affects you in an actual, physical way and not just causing you mental anguish, you do not get to legislate. Wow, that would be a concept, wouldn't it. Do not do onto others as you would have done to do you, their tastes may not be similar. You in the future will be free to reject all and any cures arrived at by research in genetics. It is not your right to deny it to others. Because of the bullshit of last 20 years, we are already 20 years behind research done in other countries. We are slowly fading away, at this rate it will be Chinese and Korean exceptionalism we will be talking about 50 years down the line.

What about Little Timmy. He had no say in any of it. What if he is starving? Not Timmy's womb and sperm donors. What do we do with Little Timmy? Solve that, find me a true conservative candidate that will agree we need to have 3 laws on the books: don't kill, don't steal, don't assault and you have my vote. They don't exist as it stands currently. Instead of spending money on real sex ed and birth controls, they want to spend money abstinence only and outlaw contraception. Instead of creating flat, fair tax, they want to create more "personage exemptions" for clergy. And the list goes on. You really think I'm a liberal? I'm a true libertarian Scott. But as I do not see anything changing anytime soon, I just want some return on my tax dollars in the mean time. And I want to pay less, hence I think the little nice church down the street can afford to swing for their fair share of property taxes so that mine would be less. I am a cold blooded realist without any pretense. I really don't care what happens to Little Timmy but since everyone else is so f#$%ing concerned, I want the best bang for my welfare buck. Screw drug testing for welfare recipients, give them all IUDs and let them get as high as they want to.

Isn't science great. Isn't the fact that liberals of their time freed us from bounds of theocracy and led us to much greater understanding of universe than anything desert dwelling goat herders could ever offer us. Few more generations, few more discoveries and Vatican will just be a museum with lots of fancy artwork...

Some old divinely inspired book? Am I close? They're just running 600 years behind us, that's all. We've done our killing in the name of the Lord, whom seeing us as too uncommitted and lazy now, passed the torch to them. Apparently literally, based on recent events. Just for you John, a nice little research paper on death directly caused by papacy and our Lord: http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/estimates.doc The are f*$%ing savages. Guess what, so are we. Ever heard of Mark 77 bomb?

Do not want an Acclaim. Do not trust anything from Continental. Do not want an unsupported G1000 installation. Do not trust that Mooney is anything but a shell company.

What? Uncolored description of reality without any pretense and fake sensibilities? I'm pretty good at that. People don't like it. People like their crutches and filters.

You all want lower taxes and less regulation but not a single one is actually willing to accept the reality required to achieve that dream. Abortion saved us 30 million potential little shits in prisons and on food stamps. Did it not? How can you deny that? You can't. You see, us liberals want to save your tax dollars. And we also want to take care of all the poor ones already born and give them free IUDs so we don't have to pay for more in the future. How is that not a conservative idea? $200 to save hundreds of thousands? Am I missing something? Less poor people, less welfare, no? I mean if you want to force a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term, do you then not owe her basic necessities of life? If not her, then at least said child? Or do we let the little shit starve? Where are your answers? Cutting taxes will not feed that kid. Less abortion regulation and more reality based sex ed might prevent his existence in the first place. All "conservative" "logic" breaks down under questioning an average 8 year old is capable of doing.

Nope, metal 3 blade just like Acclaim S and Ovation 3.

Nope, Hartzell would develop the STC...Their metal 3 blade top props are closer to $10K.

Here is another good from you. Of course that banning and confiscating all the guns would make us safer. Look at Japan. You know it. It won't happen, but in theory, if there was no guns, you are aware that there would not be 30,000 gun murders. Do you disagree? You don't want more taxes, well, then you have to stop producing so many poor people. Imagine 30 more million on food stamps you'd have to be paying for. You'd have to fly a Cherokee. Oh, the humanity.

Adopt? Save your vagina? Invitro if you really want to destroy said vagina? Religion once again messing with the law. It didn't use to be like that until about 30 years ago when right wingers decided fetuses were people too.

Great ideas from Scott. I agree with them ;-) Yes, we should probably require that anyone on welfare does not reproduce, so an IUD would be a great idea for those seeking to receive federal or state benefits. Are you guys denying that unwanted children tend to become unwanted adults? Whether or not you are pro or against abortion you cannot deny the fact that poor people have more kids and that their kids are more likely not finish high school and get in trouble with the law. By having the poor have less children, you have less of these problems. So yes, I claim that an average abortion has probably saved the tax payer hundreds of thousands of dollars. How can you deny that? Prison is $30K a year, food stamps and welfare probably $10K. Student education. I am not attacking religion. I am attacking policy based on religion. Believe what you want, just leave it out politics. I want sound fiscal policy and in my book teaching kids about "f***ng", birth control and easy access to abortion would make us a safer and wealthier society. As simple as that.

Serious about what? So are your parents in hell then? Obviously whatever they believed you don't so someone has to be wrong?

No idea, but probably right around $10K like all other piston top props.