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ROP, because nothing protects you engine like flying at book + 1 GPH, and the running out of fuel and landing in a field. Safety first!

So, you can predict when your tank goes dry within 3 minutes? thats really something. I cannot follow that argument.

Do you resally need a handheld comm?

he will fit in the back just fine.

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And change your oil every 25 hours! Scott at Denver Jet Center at KCOS said so!

And no, LOP burns up your valves. I learned this from Hank McGillycuddy, owner of the engine shop in Ruidoso, NM back in 1971. He said, that LOP burns valves and, well, we all know he was right. He also said climb at 25/25 and dont run oversquare. This also applies to fixed pitch props, geared engines, turboprops, jets, and space shuttles. "Hey Hoot, dont lean out that mixture so much, we might not make orbit if we burn a valve!"

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Further, if you have 10 gallons remaining, our advanced fuel monitoring computers tell us how much fuel is on board, but not how much in each tank. Do you know when you get down to 10 gallons total if it is 5 gallons left and 5 gallons right? Or could it be 3 gallons left and 7 gallons right? How can you know? Thats only 2 gallons difference! Do you do a VFR go around and now its 5 gallons left and 3 right? Or was it 7 gallons right and 2 gallons left? Oh, well, i THINK this tank is fuller, so lets switch on downwind, and HOPE it is still the fullest. So, which is safer? A tank with 3 gallons in it or one with 10? If yoy never run your plane bellow 10 gallons a side, well thats the same category I see on the news about once a week. A "cautious pilot" who never pushes the boundaries of crosswinds, stalls, weather, fuel, night flying, or IFR who stalls the plane or runs a tank dry on final.. A dead one. Who couldnt deliver when the situation required soemthing within the limits of the aircraft. Here is a challenge to you. Next time you fly more than 300-400 NM, and you stop to fuel, write down how many gallons it takes to tippy top the tanks each side. say, 23.5 left and 20.0 right. See how close you are. Airmanshp says you should be right on.

When it comes down to it, I trust the union more than the company. If you ever worked in a union shop you would know this. Who is the most heavily unionized airline? Southwest Airlines. Who has the lowest fares, highest paid employees, best productivity, highest utilization, best worker morale, and the most free cash? Southwest Airlines.

Parker I may be a liberal but you and I have more in common than you think. I actually may be more if a libertarian than democrat, as I believe that government is a necessary evil, yet it required to protect the common man from abuses and outright theft from the strong. There has been plenty of that taking place the last decade. Too much. Unions serve the same purpose between employer and employee. I just dont believe that the powerful will always do the right thing regarding relations with the weak or common man. Greed is too much a human nature. Quote: Parker_Woodruff We need a society where community and families are valued. People look after other people (locally) for their needs. Have you noticed that large charities (where politicians give their token gifts to) do very little dollar for dollar compared to local churches and communities. Where I come from you look after your neighbor and when he's in real need, you show mercy. Somehow liberals feel that going through the government middleman is somehow more effective. There are a lot of generous, kind hearted Republicans and Conservatives out there.

Whatever happened to good old fashionaed accountability. You get drunk. You fly into a chuirch full of nuns and baby seals. You cannot be sued for damages because of corporate trickery, yet I can. The fundamental problem with a corporation is it has no body to imprison and no life to take if it does wrong.

With the Koch brothers commands, anything is possible!

I am shopping for a prius to replace the big block chevelle. After all, we need to conserve oil and help the environment. I figure a hybrid will do that. I feel better just thinking about it. Quote: Parker_Woodruff There's nothing like what...700 feet to the gallon? 7.5 gallons to the mile?

yep. not fair Cain said it best "if you are not rich, its because you're lazy". I didnt know I lived on a planet with so many slackers! Quote: fantom It works for lots of other assets, as well..... Of course if one doesn't have a business, assets, or a pot to piss in, then it's just "not fair".

Nah, you can fly lower and be legal. Even in a Beech 1900D. Just not closer than 500' to any "person, vessel, vehicle or structure". In west Texas, thats pretty dang low.

We rent out the 747 if you have dogs or elephants. The captain might even let you take the stick for a few minutes. 5,500$ plus gas. Per hour. 4,700 gallons the first hour. 3,500 gallons an hour after that. 5% discount for block time.

Quote: N4352H I juuuust sayin... Demographics Bec? That is just LUCIOUS!!!!

Yep I decided to retire from the thread, until someone labeled me as a "liberal" and then a couple posts later someone commented "a liberal is someone with no brains" I'd submit that someone repeating something that is blatant non-truth from Fox news they saw that morning as short on thinking process. Lets hear some real ideas, not sensationalist bits repeated from a "conservative" news source. Can someone describe "conservative" anymore? Cause last time I checked, Bush and Co. raised the national debt by double, or 5 Trillion dollars Plus the legacy of 2 wars nobody wants and tax cuts we cannot afford. So what are they conserving?

...nope its just getting started

Somehow the evil government made the big banks do it. "Forced" is the newest version of history. Government made them issue bad loans in the trillions, pushed them as AAA rated CDO's (rated by the same S&P that downgraded the US Debt) while secretly taking odds against them, and then praising the "invisible hand of the market" right up until the entire world melted down. Suddenly screw capitalism and risk taking, help us out! Read that book "the big short". All the US Government's fault. Tell you what, ask Somalia how their "freedom from government regulation" is going. Perhaps you can get a glimpse of why the protesters in NYC are so upset. Doesnt seem this thread is done yet.

Didnt we just have a discussion about "catch phrases" and name calling? Go look up the definition of socialism, marxism, and communisn and have your 3 page report on my desk tomorrow afternoon. Quote: triple8s WOW, I thought this was site was for the promtion of the sport of flying and specifically about MOONEY aircraft. Guess Communist/Liberal propaganda always finds a way to get in no matter where you seek refuge.

If you slow to 1.1 or 1.15 Vso the airplane will sink so well you won't have issues landing in a bowl. Get this laminar fow wing behind the power curve and the drag adds up terrible quick. You can use this to your advantage. Quote: orangemtl I don't think the failure rate is a substantial concern; as posted, getting them out there isn't the problem. Strictly for my own use, I don't put them out until I'm over the numbers: retracting the half flaps has been noted as potentially a better method, and I can't dispute the point. It's not so much a method to ENABLE landing (all planes eventually land...); rather, simply a means by which to make it a bit cleaner, minus the 'hop'. For most people, flap retraction (or, just being a more experienced pilot) is probably a more palatable method. In a circumstance where you need a relatively rapid descent in final, perhaps the speed brakes would be more useful (e.g. the 'airstrip in a bowl' that we occasionally see here in the western US, and no doubt in Europe as well).

I wouldnt get into the habit of changing configuration or moving anything but the throttle until at taxi speed.

Taxiing on grass gives me this uneasy feeling, like running LOP, running a tank dry, or a ten mile final