201Steve

To be fair, that can be said of any new to market aircraft. There is a curve where for many years, the data is not available yet and there are no instructors with mastery of said aircraft until it’s been around long enough to produce it. Check the curve of the MU2 for example. I don’t think we have data far enough back to legitimately score Mooney, Beech, Piper, Cessna, bc they are so classic, but there was a point where everyone was still learning there, too.

As it pertains to aircraft value, the market isn’t considering vacuum gyros a plus. There are plenty of folks who prefer non-electric. However, they aren’t going to pay you extra for it. They will pay you extra for glass.

My understanding- The Klappmeiers designed the airplane with the core purpose of marketing the airplane to wives. Nice ergonomics, safety, etc. The parachute was always a part of the design. It’s what stood it apart in many ways. The procedure for exiting a spin, as written by Cirrus, is to deploy the parachute. It’s logical that its’ type design be certificated in such a way that agreeswith the procedure. Evidenced by EASA, It’s probably just about as spin friendly as a Mooney, so not great. They had a safer solution and so the rest is history. Additional tools are not the enemy. Proper foundation is paramount. Proper foundation plus additional tools is always better.

Probably get a better answer from the design teams of every single manufacturer building new airplanes today or any avionics shop in the country. When’s the last time you heard of someone going into avionics to have there glass panel ripped out for a steam gauge replacement?

@Hank every single caps deployment that was actuated within the speed envelope, everyone has survived. And quite a few outside the speed envelope. It’s 140 Kias in the late model 22’s. I’ve got a fair amount of time in it, so I’ve thought about it a lot, with that record- it is a no brainer. I couldnt care less about the airplane after a catastrophic failure. I’ll take the 100% survival rate all day and not leave it up to chance. The only thing I care about is making it home for dinner. if an airport is near, I would just do that. I would pull a chute in my Mooney in all same scenarios if it had one.

$140k seems very high for a basically original bird that only has the engine in the “plus” column. I think the market for people wanting to fly an original steam six pack is only getting smaller with each passing day for a swarm of reasons.

Yeah, I already bought a serviceable backup actuator (to obviously include the gear) so that’s -1 from the list. I probably would’ve paid $1,500 for a gear set but I would be skeptical to do so without it being in hand. The timeline seems very frothy with all those variables

I have not read all 5 pages of this thread, but I did look at the web page. This is the silliest thing I have seen. Give a bankrupt/startup joint venture a monthly fee to get a measly 10% discount on parts they may or may not be able to functionally produce. I can’t believe they actually all got together and decided this was the move. Pretty wild. I’ll put $200 a month on a side bet that says there’s going to be some angry participants of this membership. I hope lm wrong and they have a genius idea it’s real hard to envision.

@Echo I have been known to poke fun at misunderstandings and otherwise inappropriate circumstances , including my own. I’m just another bozo on the bus just trying not to take life too seriously. my 77J dukes is also a 2 wire motor.

lol I don’t think he’s listening. Maybe if you say it a third time.

Food for thought, I had an intermittent issue with gear going UP. I tapped on the contactors and voila! It went up! I replaced both for good measure. And then, it still didn’t work right. Long story short, the light tap of a hammer in the general area created enough vibration to break loose the real problem, that turned out to be a limit switch actuator. YRMV.

I don’t know much about chemical interactions but carbon breakdown is its primary use and design.

I’ve wondered why it hasn’t been discussed more. It’s a staple in the auto world. Pretty similar, is a petroleum product you can put pretty much anywhere.

Anyone suggesting a more up to date radar isn’t useful bc it’s only strategic and not tactical….. ok so what’s your preferred delay? lol. Crazy talk. The closer to real time the better. it would be great if they would make a remote antenna. I guess the unit technically is the antenna but they could separate the guts for more in a “mini mini” version. Not loving the idea of on the glare shield. Cirrus was way ahead of its time when it installed the top window in the back. heck I pay $60 a month for my crappy dsl internet at the hangar. Will be dual purpose if I get the star link rig. Pays for itself!

And funny cat videos