DualRatedFlyer

Whats the white thing next to your gear knob (to the right)? Im not familiar with this.

Found that one of the defroster tubes had indeed slipped off the defroster port. Was able to get it reattached so well see if that makes a difference. Haven't seen the rumored cooling hose that goes to the avionics deck from the copilot side. Does anyone have a picture of theirs? I've attached what mine looks like. Sorry for the closeups. You can see only one large diameter scat tubing from the copilot side that goes to the mixer.

@kpaul Wow, I wasn't aware the F didn't have rear vents. Looks like I can stop looking for them now. Do you know what model they stopped with? I still have the square vent similar to your picture above. Mine looks more like 3 or 4 fins that close flat instead of a butterfly valve. I like the "eye vent" idea. Might have to give that a try.

Are you saying that there is no scat tubing going to the rear in the F model, or that the flow through this tubing is so negligible that your really only getting heat from the TPM vent? If I could just get that vent to extend a little further out (anyone have a easy diy mod?). My wife is always cold, and im always hot. Wonderful combination when trying to pump heat into the rear.

Thanks for sharing. Looking at the manuals ambient temp ranges for the 430: -20°C to +55°C and -40° C to +70° C for the GTX-345. I dont think the heater is putting out that kind of heat when blended. Still dont get warm and fuzzies knowing the unit is scalding hot - these things cost too much to break. A few good suggestions on here will hopefully help mitigate these temps.

@Hank I was primary running full heat to try and get the rear seats warm. Looks like mixing does help move more air more evenly, but even then my avionics still get hotter than id like. I have heard rumor of scat tubing that runs to the rear seats to deliver heat, but I dont know where the heat exits in the rear and have been unable to find the vents.

Will give this a look this weekend. Thanks for the suggestion.

This a good idea. Going to give it a try

@Marauder not sure why it didn't work. I've added it as an attachment this time. I think we're talking about the same tube. @cloud116 My wife has been complaining of cold temps in the back seat and I found that by mixing the heat and vent it eliminated the negative pressure draft coming in from the rear seat vents and more evenly distributed the heat (advice I found in another forum on this site). In addition to mixing I pointed the pilot vent on the avionics, so not sure what effect mixing has alone. Sounds like you've had good luck. Even after the mixing the 430 and 345 feel hotter than I think they should.

@Marauder - here is a photo I snapped while working on another project a few weeks ago. The view is below the panel on the co-pilot side looking up. Would the orange tube on the right be the scat tube going to the defroster? It feels like the air is coming out somewhere above the cream colored "Alt Static" knob on the bottom left. Not sure if the plastic trim behind the alt air knob is directing all the heat directly up. The metal trays were so hot I couldn't keep my hand on them for more than 5-6 seconds. I cringe to think what the heat is doing to my avionics insides.

Not sure- Its a fairly new aircraft to me, and I saw no mention of one in the maintenance records. For reference, its a 1974 M20F. Would the cooling fan be visible under the dash?

Has anyone ever noticed that their cabin heater causes the avionics above the main heat outlet to cook? Had the heat rolling this past week on a flight down south and happened to touch the side of my 430 and it was extremely hot. My GTX-345 is below it and I was able to reach under the panel and touch its metal baseplate and it was also extremely hot. On the return trip I opened my left eye fresh air inlet (beside pilots left knee) and pointed it up towards the avionics which appeared to help a little. The biggest difference was when I turned off the cabin heater. With the heat off the avionics are no longer scalding. When its on, I can feel warm air coming out above the top of the center floor vent where the throttle quadrant is. I believe its venting behind the plastic finish around the center floor vent up into the avionics deck. Has anyone experienced this before? Not sure what it looks like behind the plastic center console trim. Looks like I may be taking it off to figure out how to better seal it up.

Just received my "smart socket" switch from Amazon. Ran by T-mobile and got a prepaid "30 for 3" sim card. 30 minutes or 30 text or whatever combination of minutes and text that add up to 30 for $3 per month (0.10 per minute or text over 30). If you dont need it in the summer you can just stop paying for the next month renewal. Sim card activation was $10 bucks. @Marauder 's translated instructions were super helpful and made setup much quicker than the prepackaged instructions.

Where might one find a pre-existing file with base panel dimensions that have been validated in an effort to cut back on spending hours in a cockpit with a tape measure? Asking for a friend...

@Marauder North of Baltimore. I have been looking for an excuse to make a trip over to the Dogfish head brewery to take a tour. Are you anywhere near there?

@carusoam Sounds like my kind of place. Ill have to see if I can make up an excuse to take a trip that direction.

@bluehighwayflyer @Oldguy wasnt kidding when he said you guys like to spend OPM On a serious note, is the cabin difference really that much more?

Thanks @carusoam ill give these guys a look.

6' 2''

@carusoam Thanks for the advice. Keeping a close eye on whats selling.

Will be mostly with adults (no children atm). I have a few pilot buddies as well that wouldn't be apposed to tagging along for the occasional airshow here and there.

Currently in the northern MD area.

@carusoam Feels good to come out! I imagine 70% of my long range flying (>2 hrs) will be accomplished with family filling all the seats. I will be using my instrument rating and am looking for something with at least a basic AP and WAAS equipage. Ive been told from other owners that it is almost always a better deal to buy an aircraft with these already installed than to foot the bill for an install post purchase. Interested in hearing others opinion on the matter.

Hello MooneySpace! McStealth caught my lurking around on one of the forums as a new member and recommended I formally introduced myself to the MooneySpace community. How did I end up on MonneySpace? I have been on the hunt for the past few months for a personal aircraft (still looking if your selling!) that would allow me to travel up and down the east coast to visit family and travel with my wife. My logbook has a good variety of aircraft flown over the years, but one that has always stood out to me is a Mooney. In my research on owner opinions of autopilots, fuel tank reseals, and the infamous "E or F model" question, I continue to find my google search results directing me back to MooneySpace as an amazing source of information. So thats my introduction, and if anyone has any recommendations for first time buyers let me know! Thanks for having me.