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I have always thought that the CAS or EAS is what the airplane actually feels. I understand now, that the airplane "feels" the higher speed, TAS, but with less molecules so the IAS will indicate lower. Structurally the airplane feels the same load, dynamically, it responds to the higher TAS, hence flutter "I can't pronounce the other word" can be induced at markedly lower IAS. I understand Mach buffet much better now. Am I pretty close in my understanding?

I have read with great interest this thread. If all my years of flying, I never knew Vne was derived from TAS. Since,

Mine is a Gill. Was installed January of this year before I bought the plane. The avionics shop just called and told me the battery is failing. WOW! I am going with the Concorde…. or something from Autozone at this rate.

$70,000 hull, 1M liab. $940. $50 deduct. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Makes me feel faster if I use MPH. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I'm with ya Immelman! I have circa 1996 avionics. MAC 1700 radios and king HSI. I had one avionics shop try and talk me into the latest and greatest, but I found, just like the initial purchase, I had to really evaluate what I need the avionics to do. Essentially, I need ILS and VHF comm capability. I finally found a shop willing to repair my 40-year-old radios at a reasonable cost. By the time 2020 comes, I am hoping the part 23 re-write will be complete and Riley will be able to be classified as "experimental" so I can install a Dynon panel for a fraction of the cost!

For what it worth, I have waited a LONG time to own my first airplane. This has been a lifelong dream come true! I fly to work, where I fly some more, then I fly home. I am long past counting the costs of ownership and here's why... You simply can't put a cost on the joy of knowing that airplane is YOURS. NO ONE can tell you when, how far, what fields you can take it to. I LOVE tinkering with my plane. I call her my daughter, my wife calls her my mistress. I have gone to the airport to do something to "Riley" and I just have to take her around the patch. Airplanes are expensive. So is golf, racing, traveling, etc. Any hobby worth-while will consume cash. That being said, if you are mechanically inclined, theres a lot you can do yourself and save money. You can do anything under the supervision of an A&P. I work on mine and apply the hours toward my A&P. Even if you can't fix the problem, you can sure diagnose it and save $$$$ at the shop. Kids are expensive (much more so than an airplane), but the cost is insignificant to the joy. Treat your new baby like a child. Know that it will cost you money, but the ROI is HUGE! Another thought… airplanes RARELY lose value. The chances are really good you will be able to sell it, when you are ready, for what you bought it for or more. The real cost of ownership is fuel, oil, maint and hanger. Go with your eyes open, but don't get paralyzed in the analysis. Buy the best you can afford. "Projects" rarely work out. You're buying the engine and avionics, the airframe is just the container, hopefully a corrosion free container, but just a container. Airplanes can be financed out 15 years. Keep that in mind when shopping. All that being said, "Riley" is at the avionics shop today…. i feel my wallet getting lighter as we speak. Gear change… I am 6' and 220 LB. I love my M20F. She is an absolutely rock solid IFR platform. She burns 9 GPH @ 140 KTAS (3500ft) and is a joy to fly. As mentioned earlier, the seating is more along the lines of Porsche. Cessna and Piper are more Chevy truck. I was told this when I was looking so I will pass it on. Be COMPLETELY honest with yourself about what you want the airplane to do. When you figure this out, you might end up with a totally different airframe then you started looking at. Good luck!! Matt

Without a doubt badass! I just learned what invasion stripes are. Nice touch!

David, I am not in a huge hurry and I would be interested in that! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Built tranny and 9" rear end. Need to finish it up soon. Might sell it to support my aluminum mistress. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

That's a gorgeous panel! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

'68 with a built 351! I have the original matching numbers 302 though Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Huh... Never thought about it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

A little short on cash now. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The recent "investment" Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

LOVE the Stormscope though. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Rockin the KN74 rnav! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

M65be. Where is he at? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I've seen the after pics! admittedly a bit jealous. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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Thanks for the replies! Chris.. That's a good lookin' airplane and you can definitely tell ours are sisters. . I am laughing right now because someone a while back said you should not name your plane or you will be spending $$$ in mods. I saw that post a little late so now Riley HAS to have her mods! The ADF antenna will be gone shortly. I know the rigging is off. With the right aileron even with the flap the left one sits down at least a couple of degrees. Does anyone have a recommendation in IL, WI to do rigging? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I should've mentioned that it is a 75 F model with no other modifications. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

For those that have done this mod, is it worth the money? Do you see any increase in speed, cooling or any other advantages? Thanks in advance! Matt Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Take a look at the GTN650. What are you asking for it?

OK. Will do.