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Now I just need to find the time to pry tho old ones out witout screwing up recent paint job and glue the new ones in

I just got 2 of these for my Bravo after being on the waitlist for about a year. Paid $350 for them (incl shipping). Not a grounding item, but annoying enough for me to see the broken gauge every time I fuel the plane that I justified the expense.

Very sad end for a new Mooney owner. Hopefully we will some day learn what was the cause of this tragic event, the various conjectures published here and elsequere notwithstanding. It is possible that the fuel system issues discussed on MS forum earlier were nt resplved and may have been the cause of this accident, but it is also possible that some other factors were involved. Too early to tell with any reasonable degree of certainty, but celarly the absence of facts will not prevent various "experts" from publishing conjectures and speculations.

According to the PR blurp published by LASAR that touted "transparency" and other corporate BS, the price of all Mooney produced parts was going up by 30%. So much for honesty and transparency - 30% declared increase vs 1000% actual increase. -

Cannot speak for Ovation with absolute certainty, but it took me about 1 hour to change these on my 1990 Bravo. It is my understanding that the factory wintips are the same on both models. Wingtips do not have to come off, just the front lens. The LED lights fit perfectly in the existing brackets and you just connect 2 wires. After changing to LEDs, I am no longer concerned about melting lenses when using recog lights. Replacing the strobes and nav lights was just a bit more involved as it required rmoval of the poswer suplies for the strobes, but it also did not require removal of wingtips.

Gorgeous shade of red.

Interesting plan. Any thoughts about how much money and manpower would you need to get this rolling?

And then what? Ownership change without operating capital and sound business strategy will not fix Mooney;s problems.

Rosen visors work well in my Bravo: https://www.rosenvisor.com/store/p106/Mooney.html Don Muncy @DonMuncy also makes excellent custom made visors for many models. Either option will make a nice and relatively cheap upgrade to the original visors.

Crowdsouring is an interesting option, but it does not really adddress continuity of operation. What would the proposed management and operating structure look like after the buyout? What would be Lasar's proposed role, if any, in this? One-time capital investment will not address the issues that led to the current situation.

Did your AP figure out what was the cause of the problem? Enjoy your new toy in good health!

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

This is the greatest of reasons for modification of a plane I recall seeing an STC for E models somewhere that did not involve installation of new autopilot as I was exploring this possibility few years ago for reasons not related to the width of my co-pilot's posterior, but cannot find it in my old docs as I no longer own the E.

I wish you the best of luck with this project! It would be awesome to see this M-22 in the air. A truly rare aircraft.

Good for you. I am still trying to figure out the value proposition here.

Please do write that check soon and make it a BIG ONE! Leading by example is a great way to show commitment and to get others to follow. Unfortunately, for many, if not most, of us on the forum, $5,000 a year does not represent a mere rounding error at annual so it seems understandable that there is a desire for some clarly articulated benefit of the proposed investment. Unless we should consider the money to be a charitable donation. Come to think of it, maybe they could convert to a non-profit and solicit charitable contributions for the prupose of maintaining the Mooney fleet viable well into the future Not sure if that would qualify as exempt purpose, though. That way the contributors would at least get a tax write-off for the contributed money.

I would respectfully disagree with some of your points. 1. Some highly qualified employees, like Frank Crawford, have been with Mooney through the various management and ownership structures and their contribution to the factory and to Mooney fleet is simply invaluable. They are probably worth their weight in gold, if not more. 2. Bad management does not automatically translate into bad employees. Managers come and go, but loyal employees who are passionate about what they do tend to weather the storms. I do agree with your statement that you have no clue about who works for Mooney and what they do. Your remarks appear to be rather offensive to those who have been part of Mooney for many decades and who kept our planes flying, despite some of the poor management choices made by the owners and managers of the company.

Call me jaded, but any time a company in financial distress starts touting "corporate transparency" my bulls#@% meter pegs to full-scale deflection. What we saw so far was about as transparent as a black hole.

The assurance plan sounds like an attempt to quickly generate positive cash flow with little or nothing to be given in return. Let's assume that about 1,000 owners would find this proposition interesting enough to commit to the basic plan of $200/mo, then you will have 200k/month flowing in the Lasar coffers wthout actually doing anything of substance or shipping any parts. Not a bad plan for Lasar. Is it sustainable? Whio knows? Benefits for owners???

Please explain to me how would spending 2-6k a year make me feel better about flying my plane witout getting any tangible benefit for my money? Maybe I am missing something here. This seems to be very much like the various extended waranty offers that I get in my e-mail about my aging cars and home.

I am curious what "exclusive discount" would one get for $6,000 a year? What if you do not need any Mooney parts for 5 years - just flushed $30k donwn the toilet unless you find the "quarterly briefings" (whatever that may be) valuable. I am all for helping LASAR stay in business and maintain the fleet, but somehow I fail to see the value propositiion for plane owners here. The site does not offer much in tems of specifics. Looks like "access to portal" that shows what parts are available will now be paid . Do you have to be a member to buy parts? As some other members observed, the parts link is gone from Lasar's site and since Mooney does not sell parts any more, it seems that we are collectively SOL for any parts needed. Not even Rolls Royce dealerships charge monthly fee for the pribvilege of having access to their website

I though of putting the O2D2 controller somewhere in line of sight, but could not come up with a solution that would be somewhat elegant. my O2 ports are in the ceiling (1990 Bravo) above/behind the front seats and running hose to front panel would not look very good. Thus, I chose to attach the controller with 3M Dual Lock Strips bewteen the rear seats where I can easily reach it and manipulate the control knob. There is arguably no need for visual confirmation of function with this unit as you can clearly hear the pulses being delivered (I now that some pilots do not like this, but I got used to it quite quickly). I can still glance at the box periodically to see the green lights and confirm that battery is OK. All the hoses are out of the way behind the seats and the setup works really well. No overheating issues as the box never gets direct sun.

If the aircraft was advertised as having bladders installed and it does not have them installed, the seller knowingly misrepresented material fact and that, in and of itself, would suffice for rescission of the sale unless the parties addressed the issue during the transaction. Was this discrepancy addressed during pre-buy? It is pretty easy to spot bladdes vs. wet wing tanks by looking inside. Of course, the absence of log entry for installation would reveal the discrepancy.

I would concur with Lance here. Buyer should not have to spend time, money and effort to identify and remedy a defect that was arguably known to seller but not disclosed to buyer. Concealment of a known defect arguably constitutes fraud and good grounds for rescision of the sale contract if that is a remedy the byer would choose to pursue. Of course, the question is what can you prove.

My O2D2 box is attached between the rear seats in Bravo and my canulas and pressure adapter reside in a pouch in a co-pilot seatback pocket. Masks (small w/o mic) and back-up canulas are in pilot's seatback. Works well, but I never carry passengers in the back seats so having bulky seatback pockets is not an issue for me.