dcastor

You said you aren't picky, but...I aim to please... You can get these switches in translucent (original equipment and according to Klixon it's supposedly green??) or opaque white. It looks like you've got at least opaque white switch in your picture already. If you want opaque white, that is doable. Dave

Previous owner had O&N bladders installed in my '77 J... one thing I haven't had any problems with.

That's disappointing as I talked to them previously and while he said he was concerned about the type of plastic, he didn't indicate he might not be able to do it. I had planned to send him one of my broken switch covers to experiment on and take measurements from. I recently found a new vendor that is selling Klixon switches with the text already on them for about $270 each. I've asked if they can offer us any sort of quantity discount.

I've got a quote for the blank switches, 1-9 pieces of each switch rating is $168, and 10-24 is $119. This doesn't include the cost to engrave them. Still working that part, can't imagine it will be more than $40 per switch. Delivery for the switches they don't have in stock is 10 weeks. I think we certainly will be able to get the discount on the 10A size, but probably not on others...unless we have more buyers than those that have previously shown interest.

I'm doing some work which has resulted in the loss of a number of tinnerman nuts which appear to be A1890-4Z-1. I can't seem to find a source for these...has anyone else had luck with A1776-4Z-1 instead? Or know of a place to find the 1890s? Dave C

After letting this languish for a few months, I hope to get this effort back on track. I found some used Klixons on Ebay that I thought would solve all my issues, but it turns out one of the covers arrived broken and the other broke while I was trying to install it. I also considered seeking approval to use a different type of circuit breaker rocker switch. I found a toggle style some commonly used in certified airplanes (Cessna, Beechcraft, etc), but I just don't like that look and it would require some sort of seperate mounting plate and placards. Another switch I found that is not commonly used but had similar performance characteristics would also require a seperate mounting plate and placard (insufficient room on the actuator for engraving). So, I'm back to the group buy idea. Here is what I consider a complete set, please advise if your installation is different: STROBE LITE 10A NAV LITE 7A LAND LITE 25A BOOST PUMP 10A PITOT HEAT 10A I'm most interested in the first two, but if we get enough people to join the buy, I'll be glad to handle purchase of "full sets". Dave

Mine is a square cut-out with stitching to prevent fraying...not original carpet so no idea what it looked like originally. I had the "gear down" light fail on me and forgot about that indicator until after the light started working again. Turns out the light had corroded contacts and stopped working.

Looking for a pair of split rear seats to replace the bench seat in my 1977 M20J. Thanks!

I received my order from Shapeways on Friday, And took the printed switch cover out to the plane for a test fit yesterday. There were a few issues. First I wasn't excited by the texture of the plastic, even though I ordered the polished version it was still kind of rough. The switch appears to be exactly the same size as other switch covers but it just didn't fit as well. There was significant play in the cover. I think the printed plastic might not flex as well as the original plastic covers. So my plan is to get the klixon switches with blank covers and get those engraved...those that have sent requests, I'll add yours to the list and we can see where we stand. Dave

The manufacturer of the German switch is actually E-T-A....no idea what that stands for but it is molded into the larger switches. They are still around producing electronic components. Dave C

If you want a blank 3d printed switch covers, you can order one direct from shape ways...if you want it engraved, you'll need to tell me what you want on it...NAV, STROBE, etc. I'll post photos of mine when it's done so you can decide. Dave

Yes, I asked him to make a smooth version...v 0.5 comes in smooth and serrated . He was also willing to add text to the switches before printing, but I think engraving will give the best quality. Dave.

Spaz, thanks for the feedback. I assume based on the timing that you bought version 0.4 of the switch. I spoke with the designer who said he made a modification to the design the other day and version 0.5 should be a better fit. I have one of printing now and will let everyone know my experience with that one. If it's a good fit, I'll send to the engraver and we'll see how well that turns out.

I'll probably get flamed for this, but If you wanted comfort, maybe should have gotten a Bonanza!

Yes...20TC series, ready to start counting if you know you want complete switches...don't worry about rated amounts, just tell me what functions you need NAV lite, STROBE, etc... Don't just tell me full set, some came with different configurations. Please send with your real name and mailing address in a PM. Thanks. If you only want the actuator, give me a bit more time... Thanks, Dave

Flame Enterprises has given me an updated quote. If as a group we order at least 25 switches, the cost would be $175/ea. We need to order at least 5 of each type. If we order less than 25, the price is $305/ea. At these prices I think the best option is to order from Peerless (the ones I found with blank covers) and have them engraved separately. I don't yet have a price for engraving, but cost for switches is likely $130/ea (assuming we get at least 10 of each rating). Benefit to this option: I think we'll have switch covers that look just like originals, and if you only use the switch covers now, you'll have spare switches for future use. The guy selling the 3d printed actuators said he is still tweaking the design, but it's very close and he is willing to help us with smooth actuators. After looking at the site, I think the best option would be to have them engraved vs. printing them with text. I plan to order one as a test as soon as he can creates a smooth design. I'll post pictures. Dave

Larry, You could do this easily, but need to make sure that the new switch matches the rating of the old item. If you want to buy a switch from the link I posted above, I'm sure someone would be happy to subsidize your purchase by taking the blanks off your hands. I'd take two of the blank covers if the price is right. Dave

I found a source for these switches with blank covers...the link below is the 3 amp version so would be appropriate for Radio Master. They also carry the 5 amp translucent version, but 10 amp, is only available in white, serrated. I also found a product on shapeways that is the actuator switch only. These covers were serrated, not smooth. I asked him if he'd be willing to share his design with me so I could modify them to be smooth. They could be printed with indentation for text already on them. They wouldn't exactly match original, but at less than $10 you could change all your operators out if you wanted to. Not sure about the legality of this, solution so might ask an A&P before you buy. I am thinking that because they are just friction fit on...one could make they case these are not installed parts. Also, if you give me guidance on what you are looking for...one could argue these are owner produced parts. Dave C

I contacted flame enterprises...they said that the price quoted before is no longer valid. He is checking on a new price for us. Also checking to see if we can get only the switch covers. Aircraft Engravers can do custom engraving on just the covers. I'll get a price quote from them if the covers are available separately. Dave

It seems to me that any deal where Mooney ends up with inventory would require them to make some investment...I'd like to see Mooney stay in business as well, but I'm not willing to fund their operation if we can get the needed parts direct from the supplier. Dave

Bill, I'll check with Flame Ent after the weekend. I really only need the covers as well, but I imagine they are not available that way. Will let you know. Dave

how often do these tanks require hydro tested? Considering how often I'd like to fly above 12,500 want to make sure it's worth it.

OK...so to prevent this falling through the cracks... I'll try to coordinate. Anyone interested, please send me a PM with which ones you are interested in. I won't go off of the previous interest stated because I don't know if anyone has found what they needed through alternate means. If we get to 5, in any one category I'll ask you to send the money by paypal and I'll submit the purchase. That way I'm not holding cash for people until we're ready to buy. I'll periodically post count to this thread so we can see how close we are toward each category of switch. Dave Castor