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It's not gonna be pretty but if anyone @Parker_Woodruff can make it happen

Actually it’s not about speed at all. Speed is totally misleading because it’s a bit different for every landing. Speed is different depending where you look ASI, GPS, or out the window. Some of those speeds vary with wind, temperature, or altitude. Some of those speeds vary with weight. The right speed one landing is the wrong speed on another and worse yet you’re being fed an assortment of conflicting speed information by your ears, eyes, and instruments. AOA is the only relevant and consistent thing for approach pitch reference.

Is there something about that airport? Or just a statistical inevitability in proportion to high traffic volume?

There isn't a penalty for this at the rear CG envelope with baggage and rear seats filled?

Given the extent of the damage, I’m pretty sure the fact that it was a rocket made no difference. The slightly greater prop clearance or any other Mooney may have varied the exact extent of damage but not whether or not this approach would cause it. Heck, I’m not sure another brand airplane would fair well under the same circumstances either.

All it takes is flaps up to T/O and adjust the trim to turn the dreaded go-around into a normal takeoff.

The median age of the entire Mooney fleet is probably around 1970. I think they made more Mooney’s in 1967 than the entire time since 1990!

Ok one more question. What is the point? Is it to save money or the convenience of not having to refill o2?

Does an oxygen concentrator satisfy the supplemental oxygen requirements of 91.211? Or are they just used unofficially at lower altitudes where oxygen is not required?

Well that's either gonna count as driving or fisk. Are you flying in every day??

I’m flying in FISK on Monday morning and departing Wednesday morning. This is gonna be the first year going to Sun n Fun and Airventure in the same year.

Are you going this year? What days are you gonna be there? How are you getting there?

If it’s published minimums, then yes! Go missed. They’re already pretty low with not a whole lot of extra margin built in. But explain to me this. What “minimums” do you brief for the approach? What number do you have in your head or saying out loud to go missed at? Ex: TDZE 312’ DH 512’ With your not-a-kid-anymore personal minimums, where are you applying power to go missed? How do you remember the difference between the DH, personal minimum, and humility frailties minimum? Do you cross out the mins on the chart and write in your own? (Im not being facetious or argumentative, genuinely just curious)

So when you hit that number, even if you’re on the verge of breaking out, you slam in the power and go missed?

Interesting. For me they’re different. I don’t want to waste my time traveling to an airport that is likely not to work out. I also don’t deliberately want to plan or expect to be at the bare minimum. So I’d like to see about 500-1 to plan the trip or already start coming up with an alternative time or place. Just because I’ll fly to minimums doesn’t mean I’m seeking it out and I will preemptively try to avoid it. But if on reaching the destination, I’m feeling good and everything is working out well (smooth, stable, etc), I’ll probably attempt an approach if it’s reporting at minimums. I will not go into the approach expecting to need to continue below DH to 100ft to see the runway. But if I’m on the approach and at minimums I have a really solid view of the lights and feel it’s going really well, I’ll probably go all the way as part 91 permits.

What are your current or typical personal minimums to fly a precision approach? 3 similar but different questions. Assuming an ILS approach to a long runway with 200-1/2 published minimums with an approach lighting system, what are your personal minimums to: -Plan this as a destination -Attempt this approach -Go missed at this altitude Weather can be changing so it is entirely possible that the weather was forecast to be 800-2 when you were departing, became 400-1 when you initiated the approach, and actually turned out to be 200-1/2 when you reached DH. Are your criteria for planning, initiating, and going missed for an approach the same or different? Vote based on the values closest to what you would consider your personal minimums and share your thoughts in the discussion.

Have you found something edible?

I’ll be there Monday and Tuesday. Departing Weds morning. I’m working in Chicago that weekend so it’s a no brainer to stop by.

Has anyone found any food on the grounds at Air Venture that doesn’t suck? Seems like everything is not just over priced but doesn’t even taste any good. Have you found any vendors that are edible or even good?

Altitude

Speaking of Mooney Class, I had a 4 hour EDCT coming back from Florida IFR due to “staffing shortages” at Newark Approach. That means all airline flight to Newark were heavily delayed or cancelled. I filed IFR to Dover instead so I’d have the IFR for any enroute weather. Then, overflying Dover, I cancelled IFR and finished the last 45 mins VFR. Zero delays. Not only M class Sushi lunch service, on time arrival to an airport 6 miles from Newark as well!

How can someone even misuse it? Breathe too much?

Well you can only imagine what the food selection is like in the back if that's what first class gets Mooney class service

Try the Fox @Alan Fox