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Hope everyone is all right even if she (M20k) is a total loss.

I will dm you.

Facebook marketplace works good also. Lots of techs leaving cars for other trades right now.

I have had this discussion with my wife. She and I have a hard time justifying a purchase on a 140.... etc just to sell it later and get something more practical. What arguments would you aviators have to getting a small trainer first then trading / upgrading. I guess list the pros and cons if you would be so kind.

Spoken like someone who knows that a happy wife makes a happy life. Noted but I already told her she needs to sign off on whatever we get.

Just a heads up some even have a built in 90* camera now. Integrated right in with no need to add the mirror that always seems to have some lint on it. For sure worth the upgrade.

@MikeOH Noted I will look in to this to confirm.

When I inquired about insurance for a 152 as a 0 hour student it was around that $2500 mark. So I could imagine double or triple that or a complex. That is if they will even offer it. That being said I currently have a renters policy that will cover me at present for around $450 a year. To me insurance is a must. Murphy's law is far to accurate for my liking.

How old is to old then? Would a C be as old as practical for IFR or is a lightly updated B good. Also what is the difference between a B and C?

Almost the exact debate I have. Slow is time fast is convenient. That's why I like the Mooney you can fly 150 cruse or dial it back a bit. Out of curiosity what is the slowest cruise that is comfortable 100 at what 50% power?

Excellent response that's nearly exactly what I would say. Nice

Sound advice and makes a lot of sense. At this time research, information gathering, and see if I can find a way to get time in a Mooney. On this thought any ideas how one can get time in an M20 or 201 series Mooney.

I get that even with 1500-2k hours if its all in a signal piston (pa28 or a 172) it doesn't mean much. Decent twin time preferably twin turbine time is best. So 135 and/or jump planes would be best along with CFI / CFII. But to fill time and vacation with the wife a Mooney seems to fit at the current time. Am I wrong??

Is that including loan payments or just maint, fuel, hanger, insurance, annual... ??

I am looking for an experienced Mooney individual near Chicago Milwaukee. I would love to put hands on and fly in a Mooney before I go on an adventure with no firm knowledge I will love them. Looking for advice and info on good people to talk to and get some ducks in a row. What models should I look in to? I have been looking at B and C's the most. A little about me. I am an automotive tech and have been for over 10 years. Owner assisted maint / annuals and I am in if only to know how it works. And of course lower the cost. At this time I am working on my PPL. My mission: Wife and I (we have no kids) take trips 3 times a year at most. Local flying on the regular. Time building for ATP.

At this point my wife is in her carrier as am I. I am looking at ATP due to wanting to change careers and the love of aviation. So yes I am going to go for my IFR as well. I have always disliked renting most expensive things I am planning on using long term preferring to invest in things for me / us. Cars house etc.

Way clean and looks like it will be way easier to keep clean.

Thank you for this conversation. I am struggling to figure out a way to find / afford my first aircraft as well. Key here is I am younger, married, with no kids. I have been looking at Mooney's and liking what I see. Working on my PPL my chosen flight school removed the 152's from there fleet. Now I am renting 172's at $160ish an hour in addition to $70 for instructor. This is actually making it right on that line for me to buy vs rent. Trying to fly 6hrs a week or more and that's a plane payment, insurance, and hanger.... and a little more. Your awesome