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There is a difference between the CX Aviation (Blue label) and the original (Red label). The Aviation had to be formulated to meet the more severe conditions of the revised Mil spec. Ed

Here is a link to a Camguard video describing the monomolecular film formation/polar bonding of corrosion inhibitors such as Camguard and CorrosionX. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwLugqd6FEj9bHZQLWpFcy1UMW8/view?usp=sharing Ed

Yes.

I am the chemist that developed CorrosionX Aviation. I formulated it to meet Mil-C-81309E. The same polar bonding, high dielectric constant chemistry is in Camguard albeit at a lower concentration for motor oil compatibility. I tested Camguard for corrosion inhibiting capabilities in an analogous fashion to testing CorrosionX. However, I did it under conditions based on ASTM D6557 (Bal Rust Test) ulilized by the automotive oil developers for obvious reasons. Ed

Send me some of the little "balls" for analysis. Are they observed in all your flight department aircraft that use Camguard? Ed

"Customers that wish to participate in the study will have very specific conditions and compliance requirements." He worded it better than I did. Ed

Here is the first official statement from Continental. Ed Mattituck Services, a subsidiary of Continental Motors, has entered into a partnership with Aircraft Specialties Lubricants to study the potential benefits of continuous long term CAMGUARD use. The study will last approximately 18 months and will be limited to specific engines overhauled or repaired by Mattituck Services. Customers that wish to participate in the study will have very specific conditions and compliance requirements. The study will not affect factory new or rebuilt engines produced by Continental Motors. No specific details of the study are available at this time. Bill Ross Director, Product Support and Mattituck Services Continental Motors

You were the one that asked "I am not so quick to jump to that conclusion. There maybe many other reasons this deal was made. I will believe the data when I see it released from Continental." Do you think all spalled tappet claims were denied because they assumed to stem from corrosion? Ask yourself why would Continental do such a thing, assuming I am not lying as PTK thinks I am. What do they have to gain? Continental gets beat up for things such as low time engines having low compressions and tappet spalling. THEN they get beat up for trying to address the issues. Ed

Again I am curios, what other reasons do you envision. Ed

I'm curious, do you feel the same way about Lycoming requiring the use of an additive (LW16702) or a more expensive oil in certain models of their engines FOR THE LIFE OF THOSE ENGINES, or is this selective outrage. Ed

Initially it will only impact Continental engines overhauled or repaired at their Mattituck facility with the Lycoming engines to follow. We will see where it goes as far as factory new and overhauled engines. We are also in discussions with other qualified engine shops to follow suit. Ed

Again, yes. I doesn't matter how many times or with how much vitriol you ask, the answer is yes. Continental told me to freely discuss this upcoming program in the forums I participate in. The formal anouncement will come at Sun n Fun with the details sometime after that as Continental has to change some of their written procedures. The situation is somewhat similar to Lycoming requiring the use of their LW16702 additive. It also raised the price of the oil(s). Ed

There is nothing in print as of yet. The details have to be finalized. The announcement will come next week in Lakeland. Ed

Correct. Ed

There is no comparison between the W100+ and the W100 with Camguard. You get 25 time the concentration of rust inhibitor, dramatically better anti-wear and Camguard is the only lube product to offer deposit control. These reasons are behind Continental's decision. Ed

We have not increased our prices in 12 years even though our material costs have gone up 12-15%. Whereas we now buy material in drums we would need to buy it in truckloads to see discounts of 5-8%. Ed

Yes, Continental is changing their break-in procedure some based on information I provided. I recommend oil changes at 1-2 hours then again 10-12 hours later. After the second oil change add Camguard and use a 25 hour change schedule. Ed

I will be there all week, some of the time in the Continental booths. Ed

Baby steps. Huge momentum to overcome. First the Continental Service Center became a Camguard dealer. Now this endorsement. Ed

Continental Motors will begin requiring the use of Camguard in all of their Mattituck overhauls and repaired engines to maintain their warranties. The formal announcement of our relationship will be announced at Sun n Fun. Ed Edward Kollin Technical Director Aircraft Specialties Lubricants

The slides from my presentation are on our website http://www.aslcamguard.com/files/Why-CamGuard.pdf . We will record it at some point. I hope you have changed the oil once or twice in that 25 hours. I recommend changes at 5 and 15-20 after that. You can add Camguard after the second oil change. ED

Most (Blackstone) do a crackle test (drop of oil on a hot surface- if it crackles then some water) to see if there is any water present. You have to use IR spectroscopy or Karl Fischer titration to quantitatively measure small amounts of water in oil like I was referring to in my talk. Ed

Sorry Matt, only live this time. It will be recorded in the near future. Ed

Please join me as I present a webinar tonight: "Aircraft Engine Lubrication - What You Should Know to Make TBO" Tonight Thursday, 1-30-14 8pm EST It describes the idiosyncrasies of our aircraft engines. I will discuss aircraft oil formulations (auto vs. aviation oils), the straight weight vs. multi-weight debate, corrosion, the break-in process, engine operation, deposits and valve sticking, engine specific problems, oil additives, oil change intervals, and oil analysis. Here is the opportunity to get answers to your questions about fuels, lubricants, additives, engine operation and much more! It is not a Camguard talk, though there are a few plugs. It is hosted by "SocialFlight" and the website is https://join.me/socialflight Hope you can join me! Ed

I do not recommend the Ney nozzles or the centrilube cam. Neither of these offer any benefit at startup and the cams will have made hundreds of revolutions before receiving any oil from these mods. They only supply oil when there is pressure and the nozzles only spray when the oil is warm. The preoiler has some merit but it is not worth the cost. Ed