TonyPynes

I will contribute my new to me M20F fuel flow when I pick it up next weekend.

Quote: Shadrach It's temp and DA dependent... The Bendix RSA fuel servo will adjust flow based on mass airflow through the impact tubes in the intake. At SL on a standard day a Lycoming IO360 should be flowing at ~19GPH

Do you know what your fuel flow is during climb?

Thanks. It is very exciting and a little stressful. Cant wait to pick her up and be on my way back home. 5 hours of just the two of us. That will be nice.

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Quote: AustinPynes I am getting dangerously close to buying my first airplane and Mooney. I live 15 minutes away from KGSO in High Point but wonder if there are other options within 30 minutes. Anyone have leads on hangars in the area? I am located at Eastchester and Deep River. thanks in advance.

Quote: edgargravel Austin: No wrath. Just sadness. Some know. Some don't.......... BTW: Good luck with sorting this out (no kidding this time..)

I have read the AD which refers to SB M20-190B Part I, II and III. At the risk of enduring the wrath of manual Johnson bar owners, I would like to get a sense of the cost of this AD from those who have complied with it. I am in the buying process for an 1970 M20F with electric landing gear. thanks

I am getting dangerously close to buying my first airplane and Mooney. I live 15 minutes away from KGSO in High Point but wonder if there are other options within 30 minutes. Anyone have leads on hangars in the area? I am located at Eastchester and Deep River. thanks in advance.

My own discernment and experience mirrors your time during training and anxiousness to buy one. I decided almost immediately after looking at planes (fantasy time) actually when I just decided to take lessons that the Mooney was the way to go. I learned in a Liberty and complex time in an Arrow-200R. Now I am at the stepping off point waiting on my prepurchase tomorrow and closing hopefully this week. I will then complete 10 hours dual instruction(I am only 120 now/15 complex) nearby where the plane is in Texas before flying myself back to North Carolina. I have flown to the foothils of the Appalacians in my training time and cross country logging. Always wanted to keep going and fly over but was never able to arrange it. My longest time in the air so far is 3 hours from Greensboro to Norfolk. Seemed like it was just a few minutes to me. I love cross country and can't wait to have 5 or 6 hours to fly her back. I am planning on a very early departure, maybe before dawn so it is still early when I arrive and before clouds or thunderstorms pick up which they seem to do here daily. Instrument is next after I put 20-30 hours on the Mooney to get more comfortable. I am already tired of dodging clouds.

will be 105 total and 15 complex in Arrows if I close next week.

I think I have eliminated the HCC for $2330 which was basically a sign off only on the model. the STARR one at 1750 is 10 hours by a CFI, no sign off required the AOPA was 1592 is 10 hours by a CFI and sign off So you are right. if I feel ready after 10 but the CFI doesnt in the AOPA case I am stuck half way across the country and at their mercy unless I change CFIs. My CFI wanted to sign me off on complex at 7 hours but I insisted in two more sessions. so I should be fine but you never know. CFIs are people and there are good ones and well....you know. So taking the STARR one might mitigate that risk for just under200 dollars

i would rather work with the local broker who is also a friend but I got 1)STARR 1750(10 dual/5 solo, 2)HCC 2330(easy sign off) ......or AOPA 1592(10dual/10solo) .....now if I can make monthly payments........I always want everything for half off I guess.

First choice was local broker but money is money.

Just got a quote via AOPA - Chartis, 1592.00 for new pilot(104 total/14complex) with no hours in model hours. 10 hours dual and 10 hours solo requirements - pretty reasonable.

AUA is the broker but HCC was the insurance company. high premium but low requirements for a new pilot.

Anyone have experience with HCC?

I have thought about training in a Mooney before hand but have yet to find one available in my area.

I am SO ready to fly my own. I still have a week before he mechanic will look at it. maybe i need to offer a little more for getting it done faster.

I am a new pilot with about 120 hours and 15 complex. Hull will be around 65k I am hearing a high number of 1700. But I am still waiting on two more quotes which we hope to be lower. I expect at least 10 hours in model but am lining up an instructor onsite so when i take delivery I spend a couple of days training and head out.

Looked at everything from Cs to Js. Js in my price range just weren't enough together for me. Course I knew that going in. Lots of interesting Cs, Es, Fs and Gs. but I really didnt want to spend time fixing something later or adding a must have avionic. So I put an offer in on a M20F, Fresh overhaul, nice avionics, nice interior, nice paint. top of my budget but Vref'd okay Waiting on the mechanics results next week. Until then I am assuming it is just part of the search and may not be the plane I buy. When I get past the mechanics review and settle on any fixes I will post pics and details. More to follow. trying not to get excited yet. Waiting on the insurance company to tell me what my training requirements will be so i know if I can fly it home myself.

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I was actually thinking that the high time airframe would cause me to wonder how worn thinks like linkages, hinges, maybe hoses, wiring, etc has been impacted by changes over the year, just use, or opportunities for abuse. I am considering this from a general perspective as I would for any mechanical contraption. The actual airframe I wouldn't worry about the high time except for if i saw corrosion and damage. hopefully that makes sense. It does to me. But hey I can rebuild Harley engines and have including bearings, rods, cylinders and valves out. But zero airplane mechanic time so my opinion isnt worth much but it is mine. Low time worries me too, how were the little things taken care of? Where did condensation build up and start corrosion when it wasnt running? Did the varmints have opportunities to get to it? Again I would worry about seals, hoses, lines, wires, connections and any place there is rubber or plastic forming part of a joint that should be lubricated. Just my general observation on air cooled engines and water cooled for that matter. I would feel better if either had a fresh overhaul by someone who went through the engine and also went through other areas of the plane. That is what I would do if I was rebuilding a low hour, high year vehicle. I would ask myself, what the wiring looks like, where are the lubricated joints, connections, hinges, and rubber that sat with no one paying attention to it. I have had to rewire vehicles do to neglect and exposure. Just my thoughts. Your opinion is probably different.

George, absolutely agree. if the airframe is toast it is a showstopper. but then I dont want to replace an engine either although I agree it is a replaceable item. but for me i want both as my first two prerequisites.

No mixing. Just omitting.