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GER Mooniac

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  1. Thw ice light for the wing is included, though. Heated stall warning not.
  2. Thanks for pointing this out - wasn't aware of that.
  3. I had the TKS retrofit carried out here in Germany on my M20K 231 abput two years ago. As stated by others in this thread, this is a non FIKI-install (propably due to the single alternator and 14V electrics of the 231). Cost was about 35.000 EUR for the kit and 140hrs in labor (about another 14.000 EUR here in Germany). The cynic in me could now argue, that ~50 AMUs bought me a nice "Flight into known icing conditions prohibited" sticker in plain sight of the pilot. However, I do not regret the installation for a second, because it truly provides peace of mind in terms of dispatch capabilities, i.e. I now depart into weather were icing might be encountered without sweaty palms. To my surprise, actual use of the system so far was less than I would have expected, i.e. in situations where I would have assumed to encounter icing, actually I didn't. Speed loss was neglectible. However the TKS puts a substantial burden on useful load (which isn't excessive in a 231 anyways). Unlike e.g. non-FIKI Cirrus installations the TKS system for the Mooney (maybe the retrofits in general) to my best knowledge is the same as the FIKI-one (i.e. 6 usg/ 2hrs TKS capacity, all surfaces incl. rudder de-iced). The only thing missing is the 2nd pump. As others pointed out, I'd consider it more sensible to invest in an airplane I know instead of buying another one with FIKI capabilities and unknown quirks. Hence the retrofit instead of looking for a new plane. In my opinion, a piston powered non-pressurized plane, whether FIKI or not, is not an all-weather type of airplane. I.e. one can push the limits a bit further, however for serious flying in adverse weather, I'd consider a (single engine) turbine instead. I do realize, that Cirrus owners who spent 1mn+ USD on a non-pressurized SEP, might want to argue that :-)
  4. Just to be clear - about 13 AMUs for the GFC500 w/ three servos, about 4 AMUs for the G5 HSI and about 200 work hours (which here in Germany equates to 20 AMUs) for the installation.
  5. I too am looking to replace the steam gauges in my 231 with a dual G5 setup (AI and HSI). I already do have one G5 installed as a backup for the AI (located where the TC used to be). Thought I would do the full upgrade get a 2nd G5 as HSI, have the existing G5 moved to the AI position and replace my trusted KFC200 with the GFC500. Then I received the quote from my avionics shop and had to realize that this would set me back more than 40 AMUs and requires about 4-6 weeks installation time (the lion's share attributed of cost and installation time attributed to the GFC500) :-( What I learned in the process is that the Garmin G5 STC covers moving the analogue KI256 to the location of the TC. I.e. one can install G5s for AI and HSI in the middle of the '6-pack' and keep the KI256 which is required to drive the KFC200 and then serves as a backup AI. This is the solution I am now going for and which will hopefully serve as a step in the right direction in terms of an upgrade path to either a GFC500 or if Garmin makes up their minds in term of designing an autopilot interface which fully (i.e. pitch and roll) interfaces to a legacy King autopilot. Cost about 30 AMUs less than the scenario with the GFC500...
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