Classic Aircraft

Absolutely the truth! I try and stay out of the old Citation as much as possible. We have a new King Air 350i that's a lot nicer! As for the Acclaim I had winds the other day in the King Air all the way from about 50Kts as low as 5k to 114 at 26k. I remember seeing 87 climbing thru about 9500.

Thought since most Mooniacs were speed freaks you might enjoy the good push the other day.

Thanks again for all the response. From my discussion AllAmerican is at Kestrel Airpark just north of KSAT. I have never been in an altitude chamber but have been at flight safety twice a year since 2001. I am current in two different typed aircraft and while we cannot simulate true decompression via altitude chamber at least the newest KA 350 sims have smoke generators for quick Don practice. I have never had to fly on O2 as the (norm) but flight levels are at least a two or three day a week normal. Anyone reading have a turbo Mooney near Houston? I am willing to spend a very fair amount to see if Turbo Mooney flight is what I really need and if anyone wants KA 350 time I fly at least once a week and welcome anyone to come along. If you want some Citation time as long as you have a commercial multi and instrument we can do that as well as long as it is a 91 trip.

Thanks again. What I mostly wanted was input from owners that have sold or purchased aircraft recently. I do not expect a 20 or even 10 percent discount if the ask price is actually the market value. I am merely stating I have no idea what market value or time spent on the market for sale may be. I thought I would try and buy a popular very resell friendly model for my first Mooney purchase. Do the K models have sufficient cabin heat at altitude?

In response to the twin idea. I have considered it but I am not a fan of partners and trying to avoid the extra expense of ownership. I love the idea and stay multi proficient I am a corporate pilot King Air 350, Citation 650 but a lot of trips will be solo or 1 pax. Reality will probably be T41 to DTS. Fuel and Hooters then on to KEYW.

Thanks for all the replies. I have spoke to Jimmy at AllAmerican. His suggestion was a K model. My curiosity (and I realize that some of these aircraft may very well belong to folks on this forum) is if I were to buy a nice shape J model. Are large discounts realistic? Not that I have a issue with asking prices if that is the market. Is the ask prices on most of these aircraft out of line? I realize when you buy something there are no guarantees but I would hate to pay 120k for an aircraft realize it does not suit my needs and not be able to sell it or have to give it away for 30-50% less than paid. So I guess what I am asking is how do you negotiate a fair price without being insulting? What is fair? How long have you as owners had to sit on an aircraft after you listed it? What is the best source for determining a value that a particular aircraft would sell for? In other words a clean J listed at 100-110 would it sell quickly at 85-90? Do Mooneys sell quickly if priced right or is the market soft for sellers? Thanks for the replies I am just trying to understand the Mooney market.

Looking for some advice on a potential Mooney purchase. My wife and I have a boat in Key West and live on the east side of Houston. I am considering a later model J to see if the Mooney is even feasible. How long do clean Mooneys sit on the market? If I were to buy before the end of the year for tax reasons and decided to upgrade to a turbo or even a different make of aircraft do Mooneys sell relatively quick? Discounts from listed prices? I do not mind paying for someone with extensive knowledge to help with buying the right aircraft at the right price. There are a lot of sellers out there looking for a buyers agent or good advice.