aviatoreb Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 Check it out Western NY and well across PA. What can be going on I wonder - that's the biggest TFR I've seen yet.
201er Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 THIS IS GETTING REALLY OUT OF HAND!!! I'm writing to AOPA to complain that they are not doing a damn to defend our liberty. 2
John Pleisse Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 POTUS Bus Tour. Would you like to discuss politics? It seems to permiate it's way into GA at every turn. "Hey....are you The President of the United States"???? .... "No, but I d-i-d stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night". 1
1964-M20E Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 This is out of hand no two ways about it. 1
Marauder Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 I thought it was the guys in the TFR department trying out their new TFR mapping software. I was supposed to meet my family when this came up. Not worth the hassle...
Hank Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 Looks like the Big Drip wants to see the Falls.
1964-M20E Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 POTUS Bus Tour. Would you like to discuss politics? It seems to permiate it's way into GA at every turn. "Hey....are you The President of the United States"???? .... "No, but I d-i-d stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night". Maybe the pres needs to stay at a Holiday Inn Express it couldn't hurt.
Cruiser Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 PITA yes, but at least it is a rolling TFR in that each of the restrictied areas are about 2 hours as the bus moves on. another good reason to file an IFR flight plan, ATC keeps you safe.
John Pleisse Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 Cluster Fugazi: Special Airspace Bulletin ------------------------------------------------------------------- FAA TO ESTABLISH TFR FROM AUBURN, NY TO SCRANTON, PA ON FRIDAY A NOTAM has been issued that will restrict flight in the area during President Obama's planned bus tour. ***THIS TFR WILL COVER A LARGE AREA FROM AUBURN, NY TO SCRANTON, PA ON FRIDAY. THE SIZE, LOCATION, TIMES, AND AFFECTED AIRPORTS FOR THIS TFR MAY CHANGE AS THE PRESIDENT MOVES ALONG THIS ROUTE. PLEASE BE SURE TO CHECK WITH FLIGHT SERVICE BEFORE ANY FLIGHT*** _____________________________________________________________________________ ==> WITHIN 30 NM FROM ANY POINT ALONG A LINE <== Location: Starting at the SYRACUSE VORTAC (SYR) 240 degree radial at 20.5 nautical miles and ending at the ITHACA VOR/DME (ITH) 074 degree radial at 13.5 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 9:00 AM local until 11:00 AM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ==> NO-FLY ZONE WITHIN 10 NM FROM ANY POINT ALONG A LINE <== Location: Starting at the SYRACUSE VORTAC (SYR) 240 degree radial at 20.5 nautical miles and ending at the ITHACA VOR/DME (ITH) 074 degree radial at 13.5 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 9:00 AM local until 11:00 AM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ______________________________________________________________________________ ==> 30 NM RADIUS TFR <== Location: On the ITHACA VOR/DME (ITH) 074 degree radial at 13.5 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 10:00 AM local until 11:45 AM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ==> 10 NM RADIUS NO-FLY ZONE <== Location: On the ITHACA VOR/DME (ITH) 074 degree radial at 13.5 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 10:00 AM local until 11:45 AM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ______________________________________________________________________________ ==> WITHIN 30 NM FROM ANY POINT ALONG A LINE <== Location: Starting at the On the ITHACA VOR/DME (ITH) 074 degree radial at 13.5 nautical miles and ending at the BINGHAMTON VORTAC (CFB) 124 degree radial at 9.1 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 10:45 AM local until 12:30 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ==> NO-FLY ZONE WITHIN 10 NM FROM ANY POINT ALONG A LINE <== Location: Starting at the On the ITHACA VOR/DME (ITH) 074 degree radial at 13.5 nautical miles and ending at the BINGHAMTON VORTAC (CFB) 124 degree radial at 9.1 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 10:45 AM local until 12:30 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ______________________________________________________________________________ ==> 30 NM RADIUS TFR <== Location: On the BINGHAMTON VORTAC (CFB) 124 degree radial at 9.1 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 11:30 AM local until 2:30 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ==> 10 NM RADIUS NO-FLY ZONE <== Location: On the BINGHAMTON VORTAC (CFB) 124 degree radial at 9.1 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 11:30 AM local until 2:30 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ______________________________________________________________________________ ==> WITHIN 30 NM FROM ANY POINT ALONG A LINE <== Location: Starting at the BINGHAMTON VORTAC (CFB) 124 degree radial at 9.1 nautical miles and ending at the HANCOCK VOR/DME (HNK) 250 degree radial at 21.4 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 1:30 PM local until 3:15 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ==> NO-FLY ZONE WITHIN 10 NM FROM ANY POINT ALONG A LINE <== Location: Starting at the BINGHAMTON VORTAC (CFB) 124 degree radial at 9.1 nautical miles and ending at the HANCOCK VOR/DME (HNK) 250 degree radial at 21.4 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 1:30 PM local until 3:15 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ______________________________________________________________________________ ==> 30 NM RADIUS TFR <== Location: On the HANCOCK VOR/DME (HNK) 250 degree radial at 21.4 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 2:15 PM local until 3:45 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ==> 10 NM RADIUS NO-FLY ZONE <== Location: On the HANCOCK VOR/DME (HNK) 250 degree radial at 21.4 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 2:15 PM local until 3:45 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ______________________________________________________________________________ ==> WITHIN 30 NM FROM ANY POINT ALONG A LINE <== Location: Starting at the HANCOCK VOR/DME (HNK) 250 degree radial at 21.4 nautical miles and ending at the WILKES-BARRE VORTAC (LVZ) 015 degree radial at 7.6 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 2:45 PM local until 4:45 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ==> NO-FLY ZONE WITHIN 10 NM FROM ANY POINT ALONG A LINE <== Location: Starting at the HANCOCK VOR/DME (HNK) 250 degree radial at 21.4 nautical miles and ending at the WILKES-BARRE VORTAC (LVZ) 015 degree radial at 7.6 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 2:45 PM local until 4:45 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ______________________________________________________________________________ ==> 30 NM RADIUS TFR <== Location: On the WILKES-BARRE VORTAC (LVZ) 015 degree radial at 7.6 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 3:45 PM local until 6:30 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ==> 13 NM RADIUS NO-FLY ZONE <== Location: On the WILKES-BARRE VORTAC (LVZ) 015 degree radial at 7.6 nautical miles. From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL Times: 3:45 PM local until 6:30 PM local Friday, August 23, 2013 ______________________________________________________________________________ ==> AFFECTED PUBLIC USE AIRPORTS <== 6B9 Skaneateles Aero Drome B16 Whitfords 0G7 Finger Lakes Rgnl Y92 Owasco D93 Airtrek NY2 Camillus D82 Ovid KSYR Syracuse Hancock Intl 1H1 Airlane Enterprises N03 Cortland County-Chase Field 6NK Syracuse Suburban KFZY Oswego County KITH Ithaca Tompkins Rgnl KPEO Penn Yan 92G Midlakes 4N7 Greene KBGM Greater Binghamton/Edwin A Link Field KOIC Lt Warren Eaton KCZG Tri-Cities P32 Husky Haven N23 Sidney Muni 9N3 Seamans Field 76N Skyhaven 4N7 Greene N30 Cherry Ridge KAVP Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Intl KWBW Wilkes-Barre Wyoming Valley 70N Spring Hill KMPO Pocono Mountains Muni N30 Cherry Ridge 8N4 Flying Dollar 48P Rocky Hill KHZL Hazleton Muni N27 Bradford County K16 Becks Grove KVGC Hamilton View the new NOTAM page at: ( http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_2853.html )
aviatoreb Posted August 21, 2013 Author Report Posted August 21, 2013 PITA yes, but at least it is a rolling TFR in that each of the restrictied areas are about 2 hours as the bus moves on. another good reason to file an IFR flight plan, ATC keeps you safe. Yes, incredibly complicated. I always fly IFR when on cross country just for reasons like this. Will this be the new thing with the new bus?
pirate Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 Ramrod's on the move.... Yipeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alex Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 I'd like to propose a block to this potentially embarrassing and offensive thread... ( insert sarcasm emoticon here (unavailable on iPad)) 1
Hank Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 I'd like to propose a block to all potentially embarrassing political TFRs, all of which ARE offensive . . . but we know that won't happen. In the meantime, as pilots we need to know about these things to prevent personal embarrassment and risk to our certificates. 1
PMcClure Posted August 21, 2013 Report Posted August 21, 2013 Glad I know exactly where the pouts will be and when. Does that really make him safer?
N201MKTurbo Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 What do you bet that N28000 is tagging along just in case the buss has a flat?
flyboy0681 Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 Seems to me that the biggest threat to the president is not a light plane flying over trying to do harm, but the new generation of drones that are coming online. While they probably can't carry enough weight for some type of armament, that will certainly change over time. I'm wondering if the powers to be are seeing the larger picture.
fantom Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 I'm wondering if the powers to be are seeing the larger picture. They haven't so far.
tony Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 THIS IS GETTING REALLY OUT OF HAND!!! I'm writing to AOPA to complain that they are not doing a damn to defend our liberty. Each year I write them a check and I ask myself, what have they actually accomplished? They talk about all the things they are going to do but never seem to follow through on execution. 1
AmigOne Posted August 24, 2013 Report Posted August 24, 2013 AOPA "defend our liberty". That is not their job. If Congress does not do a damn thing about anything (10-15%% approval rating!) what do you think AOPA can do?. Sorry I forgot, Congress is concerned about abortion, gay rights, voting fraud and Obamacare. I guess that if they solved those 4 things we could create several million jobs.
jetdriven Posted August 24, 2013 Report Posted August 24, 2013 AOPA "defend our liberty". That is not their job. If Congress does not do a damn thing about anything (10-15%% approval rating!) what do you think AOPA can do?. Sorry I forgot, Congress is concerned about abortion, gay rights, voting fraud and Obamacare. I guess that if they solved those 4 things we could create several million jobs. AOPA is too busy trashing Social Security and Medicare to do anything about TFR's.
flyboy0681 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Posted August 24, 2013 If Congress does not do a damn thing about anything (10-15%% approval rating!) Question: who are the 15%?
jetdriven Posted August 24, 2013 Report Posted August 24, 2013 The ones that bought and paid for them.
mulro767 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Posted August 24, 2013 I'm getting sick of this website. My Biden comment was a joke. What I've realized is that you should only joke about politics with your friends. I'll come back when I need some useful information. But I won't be checking in anymore. Because there's too much tension here and picking through the useful information isn't worth the harassment and intolerance of the majority here. On both sides. Stay safe everyone. That's the real reason we should be here.
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