C.J. Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 While re-doing the fresh air SCAT, noticed the connection off (ref 24) of the aircraft RH NACA inlet (ref 25) is oval shaped. Can the SCAT be stretched out to accomodate this and then clamped on or is there some kind of adapter neccessary? The connection off of the right footwell air distribution box is round. A&P that removed all the old SCAT is no longer available to ask and my new A&P has zero Mooney experience.
Slick Nick Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 You can use SCEET if you want to. A little nicer material. Just smoosh the hose to the same shape. It is 2.5” diameter.
Flyler Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 I was just looking at mine 2 days ago, coincidentally. It's just a regular piece of tube that is smooshed slightly. Band clamp holds it in place. I almost typed out "should be easy" but then I remembered this is an airplane so... I wish you the best of luck on this seemingly 10 minute, 3 hour adventure. 1
C.J. Posted April 7 Author Report Posted April 7 37 minutes ago, Slick Nick said: You can use SCEET if you want to. A little nicer material. Just smoosh the hose to the same shape. It is 2.5” diameter. The new A&P is ordering SCAT since there was none left in the shop to finish my plane. I'll ask for a short length of SCEET to be included and smoosh it to fit. Thanks.
C.J. Posted April 8 Author Report Posted April 8 49 minutes ago, Flyler said: I was just looking at mine 2 days ago, coincidentally. It's just a regular piece of tube that is smooshed slightly. Band clamp holds it in place. I almost typed out "should be easy" but then I remembered this is an airplane so... I wish you the best of luck on this seemingly 10 minute, 3 hour adventure. A lot of seemingly easy projects I've taken on as an owner have been surprisingly time consuming with lots of unforeseen surprises. Had I recorded them all sofar there'd been enough content for a 24-episode season for a PBS spinoff show titled "This Old Airplane". 1 4
C.J. Posted April 8 Author Report Posted April 8 27 minutes ago, cliffy said: AND we wonder why the A&P billing is so high? I used to wonder, however after watching and/or assisting two different A&Ps work inside the confines of my Mooney I now understand the time required aspect. Far better that I take on all of the non-A&P specific grunt-work than having to shell out $140/hour for an A&P or their non-licensed "helper" to do that same work. The benefit is that I know my airplane far better than I would've otherwise and that is priceless. 2
Utah20Gflyer Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 I’m a very slow worker when I’m working on my airplane. I like to take my time and do a good job. I clean things as I work and like to look at lots of things to make sure I don’t miss things that need attention. I don’t think I could make it as an A&P. I’d either have to way undercharge for my time or no one would hire me because they would say my hours to accomplish things were ridiculous. 4
Delta Posted April 8 Report Posted April 8 When my duct was replaced, adding silicone ends made the installation much easier. I ended up ordering a 24” long piece of 2-1/2” Venair Sceet Ducting from Custom Aircraft Ducting. https://customductsaircraftsceetandscat.com/ Scat or Sceet, the cost was comparable to A/C Spruce, since they sell in 36” increments. Not having to deal with prepping the duct was a bonus. 1
C.J. Posted April 9 Author Report Posted April 9 On 4/7/2026 at 11:10 PM, Utah20Gflyer said: I’m a very slow worker when I’m working on my airplane. I like to take my time and do a good job. I clean things as I work and like to look at lots of things to make sure I don’t miss things that need attention. I don’t think I could make it as an A&P. I’d either have to way undercharge for my time or no one would hire me because they would say my hours to accomplish things were ridiculous. For the past 4 years I've mistakenly believed I was the undisputed world light heavyweight champion for slowest owner-performed maintenance - ASEL Division. It's nice to know there are others who are just as methodical, attentive to detail and slow as me. I'd never make it as an A&P for the same reasons you stated plus one additional one. My Achilles heel would be continual exposure to the fumes/odors of the various solvents, paints, lubricants, etc that are just part of the job. Athough I've taken on most of the thankless jobs that require their use during owner assisted annual I always wear gloves, goggles and a respirator. The one task I'll pass on every time is cleaning the brakes. That solvent is particularly nasty and always gets through the respirator filter. I'd never be able to deal with any it on a day-to-day basis.
C.J. Posted April 9 Author Report Posted April 9 15 hours ago, Delta said: When my duct was replaced, adding silicone ends made the installation much easier. I ended up ordering a 24” long piece of 2-1/2” Venair Sceet Ducting from Custom Aircraft Ducting. https://customductsaircraftsceetandscat.com/ Scat or Sceet, the cost was comparable to A/C Spruce, since they sell in 36” increments. Not having to deal with prepping the duct was a bonus. Thanks for the recommendation - A&P ordered SCEET from Custom Aircraft Ducting earlier today. Good to know that A/C Spruce isn't the only game in town.
N201MKTurbo Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 11 hours ago, C.J. said: Thanks for the recommendation - A&P ordered SCEET from Custom Aircraft Ducting earlier today. Good to know that A/C Spruce isn't the only game in town. I have found my Custom Ducts are a bit snug the first time I put them on. I lube the inside of the duct and the outside of the tube it is going onto with dish soap. They will go on a lot easier. Water based sex lube would probably work better…..
PT20J Posted Thursday at 06:05 PM Report Posted Thursday at 06:05 PM 3 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said: Water based sex lube would probably work better I should get some for my hangar lube cart. I can put it next to the little jar of Vaseline I use to lube the fuel cap o-rings, and the silicone plumber's grease I use on the door seals. It will be worth it just for the comments 1
C.J. Posted Thursday at 09:26 PM Author Report Posted Thursday at 09:26 PM 6 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said: I have found my Custom Ducts are a bit snug the first time I put them on. I lube the inside of the duct and the outside of the tube it is going onto with dish soap. They will go on a lot easier. Water based sex lube would probably work better….. You could always email the sex lube manufacturer and pitch this idea as an alternative use and new source of revenue for their product. Just imagine the possible marketing and ad campaign that would result. 1
Gee Bee Aeroproducts Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM When you have a oblong shape We mfg up to 4" finished cuffs We mfg on a mandrel , others buy a ducting and mfg the ends in a oven . We start the process as a complete Assy cured in a vacuum autoclave. Each size and length is made to spec on a mandrel. We don't buy material from another source and add on the cuffs . We stock black sceet made in USA sizes 3/4 to 5.5 Not cheap China made venair Our sceet is cross weave , the bend radius of scat , but double wall Mooney defroster 2.5 x 13 2.5 x 24 Compare the quality difference Breeze aerospace clamps included. 8mm driver to tighten
Gee Bee Aeroproducts Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM Report Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM We stock a complete m20c per the original dims . Black sceet , with a extra inch you can trim to fit . Always use adel clamps to secure, not tyraps
Chocol8 Posted yesterday at 11:28 AM Report Posted yesterday at 11:28 AM On 4/9/2026 at 5:26 PM, C.J. said: You could always email the sex lube manufacturer and pitch this idea as an alternative use and new source of revenue for their product. Just imagine the possible marketing and ad campaign that would result. LOL, you guys are way late and you also have it backwards. The guy who invented it was an aerospace engineer who originally developed it as an aerospace lubricant for the space shuttle program. The use as a "personal" lubricant came later. Hence the name Astroglide.
C.J. Posted yesterday at 12:40 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 12:40 PM 1 hour ago, Chocol8 said: LOL, you guys are way late and you also have it backwards. The guy who invented it was an aerospace engineer who originally developed it as an aerospace lubricant for the space shuttle program. The use as a "personal" lubricant came later. Hence the name Astroglide. The depth of knowledge of the Mooneyspace community never ceases to amaze me. You should submit this fun-fact to the folks at Jeopardy. What category could they put it in and how would the clue be worded? This might be the one thing that Ken Jennings didn't already know.
Chocol8 Posted yesterday at 01:39 PM Report Posted yesterday at 01:39 PM 49 minutes ago, C.J. said: The depth of knowledge of the Mooneyspace community never ceases to amaze me. You should submit this fun-fact to the folks at Jeopardy. What category could they put it in and how would the clue be worded? This might be the one thing that Ken Jennings didn't already know. To be honest I had no idea either, until I got hired to do a consulting job for the company a few years ago and read a presentation on their history. The history of a sex lubricant is probably not something too many (normal) people Google. Not even Ken!
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