HELP Finding an efficient SOURCE FOR Mooney Service Bulletins and Air Directives

[Patrick Lyons]

There can be NO better source than MS  to help find Something every Mooney Mechanic/Technician SEZ ""Then you tell "me"  where to find ONE!!

DON"T attack ME.... there was a day when we might have said" "I'm the customer...Damn-it""   you know I can take my business elsewhere.. !!! yepper... but I would not be exposing myself to this Forum if I did not think best and better answer is on Mooney Space.  My Mooney was built 35 years ago...circa 1991 M20-J... My Mooney is older than some of the technicians working on the plane..  ..say this Tech HE/She finished 12th grade at age 16 -18 and immediately attained an AP license Loved GA airplanes. That Tech  NOW less than thirty year old  sees MANY different models of things with wings each month???  

The Easy and best answer is A MOONEY SERVICE CENTER.  So every time some mechanic  searching the accumulated list of SB's & AD"s     Should call DON M.  That's not fair. He has a business to to run ..he doesn't have time to operate a four hour Pod Cast.

HELP...suggestions welcome   or is there an app for that I have not found??   I've shuffled through my thirty years of log books yellow highlighting ...most before programmed typewritten readable log-book  entries... for those of you that followed my rant this far....  PUT ME IN COACH IM READY TO LEARN TODAY

THANK YOU

 

[Justin Schmidt]

As a owner I do search for myself so don't subscribe to anything. For ADs I use the faa site. https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/airworthiness_directives

It can be a PITA, searching every combination for airframe, engine,  accessories.

For SBs I look on manufacturers sites. I have ran into not being able to find all of them, particularly lycoming.

It does take a significant amount of time and would be great if there was a place to put in your equipment serial numbers and not have to have a several thousand $ subscription and have high confidence of getting everything.

Given enough start up capital and time i could create an app. There are technical challenges on access though.

[Greg Ellis]

Not sure if this helps, but I subscribe to www.adlog.com 

They do the AD stuff for you and send it to you to put in the logs. $43/year for single engine.

[Vance Harral]

The airframe is easy.  Airworthiness directives for the M20J available at faa.gov as @Justin Schmidt indicated.  Service bulletins/instructions available at mooney.com: click "Service and Support" scroll to the pull-down menu for model, and select M20J.

The challenge is that the airframe is not the whole airplane.  You and/or your IA have to perform similar searches by manufacturer for your engine and propeller, of which multiple variants are approved for the M20J including aftermarket STCs.  More importantly, you must perform similar searches for all "accessories" attached to your airframe and engine, including various batteries, starters, prop governors, magnetos, oil coolers, and of course avionics.  Again including all aftermarket/STC'd equipment installed in the decades since your airplane was built.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks there is some golden source of information that makes this work easy.  It might be relatively easy for a few lucky souls who can afford an airplane built in the last decade, which is still equipped only with OEM parts.  But for most of us, it's an effort-laden slog between ourselves and our mechanics, to detail all the individual components to which an AD or SB might apply.  It's particularly gruesome for an IA with a new customer and a new-to-them airplane.  Note that services like adlog don't really solve this problem - those services rely on you to tell them what accessories are installed on your airplane.

Maybe there will be a time in the future when some sort of magic scanning app can identify everything on your airplane from a few pictures.  But today, there is no app or single information source which distills this down to a straightforward "look in this one place and get everything" exercise.  You have to crawl all over the specific airplane to get part and serial numbers, make a list of every component that's not part of the airframe, and research each one.

 

[redbaron1982]

1 hour ago, Greg Ellis said:

Not sure if this helps, but I subscribe to www.adlog.com 

They do the AD stuff for you and send it to you to put in the logs. $43/year for single engine.

+1 to this. adlog.com is amazing!

[PT20J]

Whenever the airplane is opened, take a picture of any accessory (fuel pump, gascolator, landing gear actuator, etc.) showing the label so that you can keep a record of the part number and serial number. 

Lycoming's technical publications web search is difficult to navigate, but if you know what you are looking for, you can find it. Note that Lycoming only puts the most often requested publications on the web, so sometimes you have to call them to request a publication if it's not there (this is uncommon). SSP-112-14 is an index of all active and inactive service instructions, letters and bulletins.

LASAR years ago used to publish this document. It hasn't been updated for some time, however. SB_chart.xls

[EricJ]

For ADs, the FAA/gov site is very good and free to use.    The fewer the search terms used the better the results, in my experience.

https://drs.faa.gov/browse

For Service Instructions, Service Letters, Service Bulletins, etc., the factory sites are usually the best place to go to get the latest revisions.   They're usually free to use.

https://mooney.com/contact-2/#technical-publications

https://www.lycoming.com/contact/knowledge-base/publications

https://continental.aero/service-bulletins/

 

[Hank]

@Patrick Lyons, somewhere in your logs, hopefully recently, there should be an AD Compliance Sheet listing all issued ADs for your Mooney, which are N/A by serial number, and compliance data / next check information for each one. 

If you can't find one, have your IA prepare one at your next annual. Its a PITA to do, with a charge, but after that, AD checks at every annual are simple. Keep a copy separate from your logbook, just in case!

[LANCECASPER]

I've been thinking about Adlog. The first year is $190 + $29 shipping and handling. Then it's $43/year after that.

[Thedude]

Crewchiefsystems checks ADs and SBs, I've never used anything else though, so I can't compare 

[Patrick Lyons]

Time fly's when you/we are having fun  ...but when you hit a speed bump ...AND NEED HELP

it is very encouraging  to KNOW this is a KIND AND CORRECT group of PEEPS 

Thank each of you for your input...and I would feel comfortable reaching out for more details if necessary.

Thank you...stay safe...keep the blue side up

Pat