Pretty Efficient

[cliffy]

3 minutes ago, A64Pilot said:

Dealer is flooded with inventory and I guess if it didn’t sell fast they were going to wholesale it

YUP that's how they do it

[bonal]

17 hours ago, cliffy said:

That is about as close to exactly what my converted D model does as I have ever seen!!!! Absolute twins in performance :-)

Nice to know I’m in the right performance range for my model/year.  I have owned it for eleven and a half years and it’s amazing how reliable it has been since getting it sorted out after a couple brutal annuals fixing things that had been neglected it has had a 100 percent dispatch rate. Usually my performance is based on OAT and management of temperature to the cylinders and oil.  In the cold of winter I can really push it but usually I fly between 2350 and 2400rpm and 20 inches which gives between 125 and 130 knots leaning as much as my tractor carburetor will permit and just sip fuel under 8gph.  Often times when I’m parked on a ramp with many different types like Cirrus or Bonanzas or pipers even other mooneys I look at our Plane and feel not one ounce of envy because that’s my airplane sitting there ready to take to the sky.  And what I really enjoy is it’s just a real fun airplane to fly.   How cool is it to be parked at a busy class D with boings, airbuses and Citations gulf streams and others  walking out from the FBO knowing that our little Mooney is respected by all who see it. No doubt everyone feels that way about there airplane.  What a privilege we all share.

Edited August 30 by bonal

[cliffy]

IIRC on the Cirrus even on the newer models it still runs about $10-15,000 for a chute repack and cert

At that  its $1500 per year expense just for the chute OR $125/month! Or $31 dollars a week :-)

Then again - What price "safety"?

[KLRDMD]

54 minutes ago, cliffy said:

IIRC on the Cirrus even on the newer models it still runs about $10-15,000 for a chute repack and cert

Actually, it is closer to $18k now. $1,800/year. Much of that you get back due to insurance savings because of the fixed gear and less gear maintenance.

[201er]

46 minutes ago, KLRDMD said:

Actually, it is closer to $18k now. $1,800/year. Much of that you get back due to insurance savings because of the fixed gear and less gear maintenance.

 

On 3/12/2018 at 12:58 PM, KLRDMD said:

My data is about 10 years old now but I owned a Cirrus SR-22 and Mooney Bravo back to back. They had the same hull value. I paid about 50% more to insure the Cirrus than the Mooney. And the Cirrus cost much more in maintenance. The Cirrus was four years old with less than 500 hours total time when I bought it and the Mooney was 17 years old with 2,500 hours total time.

so which is it?

[KLRDMD]

59 minutes ago, 201er said:

so which is it?

Both.

I owned the SR22 almost 20 years ago. Insurance at the time was very high. There were many accidents then and lots of insurance payouts.  And that airplane was a G1. The G2 I have now is much improved in many areas including maintenance. The G1 was immature, the G2 much improved.  I really didn't care for the G1 but I really like the G2.

About 15 years ago Cirrus got serious about training and the claims dropped significantly and have remained low. Today if you buy a used Cirrus, from anyone, a dealer, or a private party, Cirrus pays for three full days of transition training, called Embark. They also provide an excellent, and free, ground school called Cirrus Apporach for your transition training.

My insurance for the Cirrus today for a $200,000 hull is $2,400. That is with zero make and model and with my SR22 time almost 20 years ago which they didn't consider, I was told. What would the insurance premium be today for a $200,000 Mooney with zero make and model time?

Edited August 31 by KLRDMD

[jetdriven]

On 8/30/2024 at 9:18 AM, KLRDMD said:

Your D model did not meet these specs before it was converted to retractable gear. This is for a fixed gear, 49" wide cabin true four-seat airplane. What are the specs of your airplane with the gear down?

It doesn’t matter if the gear is down or not. NMPG is efficiency. 
 

and I guess I bought the right plane first.  14 years and only one.  

[jetdriven]

On 8/31/2024 at 2:16 PM, KLRDMD said:

Actually, it is closer to $18k now. $1,800/year. Much of that you get back due to insurance savings because of the fixed gear and less gear maintenance.

Cirrus are more expensive in Maintenance and insurance than a lot of comparable planes, including Mooneys. Bonanzas too.  Even Mike Busch has said this.  Whoever told you that was selling airplanes and dreams.