drapo Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Looking for a small tug for my M20E, do any of you have any experience with this equipment? http://www.minimaxtugs.com/Mooney_Tug_p/010mooney.htm 1 Quote
mulro767 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Posted February 4, 2013 I was just looking at this. Did you ever buy one? Quote
drapo Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Posted February 5, 2013 Yeah, finally bought it last November. The intent was to help me during the winter season so I wouldn't end up on my behind while trying to pull the Mooney up a slope from its tiedown using the original tow bar. While it works great during dry operation, I wouldn't recommend it for snowy or icy conditions, as it is most of the times innefective... So, final note, for a Canadian operator, about 70%, the plus side is that I can always use the Dewalt drill for something else when I don't use the tug... UPDATE: So everyone understands, the problem is more with the icy surface than the tug. I now use cleets for the initial *climb* then I rely on the tug for the rest of the pull. The manufacturer also has a special roller for more grip on the tire for those icy conditions, but in my case, wouldn't help because the problem is the icy surface. Anyway, here's the link: http://www.minimaxtugs.com/product_p/035driveroller.htm Quote
mulro767 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 Exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm slipping and sliding in Minnesota. I can move my airplane on my own easily in dry conditions. I'll keep looking. Thanks! Quote
aviatoreb Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 Exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm slipping and sliding in Minnesota. I can move my airplane on my own easily in dry conditions. I'll keep looking. Thanks! Have you tried those things you put on your shoes that are spikes? I got some at the gas station and I keep them in my hangar. Just remember to take them off before you get in the plane! Quote
Marauder Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 Exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm slipping and sliding in Minnesota. I can move my airplane on my own easily in dry conditions. I'll keep looking. Thanks! If you find something that costs less than a college tutuition, let us know! I am dealing with the same stuff; slippery ramp with an incline to get into the building. Quote
Marauder Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 Exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm slipping and sliding in Minnesota. I can move my airplane on my own easily in dry conditions. I'll keep looking. Thanks! Have you tried those things you put on your shoes that are spikes? I got some at the gas station and I keep them in my hangar. Just remember to take them off before you get in the plane! Now that is a different approach. Do you know the brand on them? Quote
aviatoreb Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 Now that is a different approach. Do you know the brand on them? Cheap and easy! They are common to find around here at the gas station, at the walmart, at the outdoor store. If you are also in the land of winter ice, I bet they have been under your nose all along too. There are many brands but here are two: http://www.amazon.com/YakTrax-Yaktrax-Walker-Black-S/dp/B001CZJIPA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360171405&sr=8-1&keywords=yaktrax+walker http://www.amazon.com/Stabilicers-Lite-Serious-Traction-Cleat/dp/B009ZPWMIE/ref=pd_sim_sg_4 They both work well (I have both) but I would recommend the first for running since they have some spring in your step, and the second for raw ice grip power like when pulling an airplane around by hand on sheer ice. Quote
Marauder Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 Cheap and easy! They are common to find around here at the gas station, at the walmart, at the outdoor store. If you are also in the land of winter ice, I bet they have been under your nose all along too. There are many brands but here are two: http://www.amazon.com/YakTrax-Yaktrax-Walker-Black-S/dp/B001CZJIPA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360171405&sr=8-1&keywords=yaktrax+walker http://www.amazon.com/Stabilicers-Lite-Serious-Traction-Cleat/dp/B009ZPWMIE/ref=pd_sim_sg_4 They both work well (I have both) but I would recommend the first for running since they have some spring in your step, and the second for raw ice grip power like when pulling an airplane around by hand on sheer ice. Thanks for the links. Much more kind to my already worn out wallet. A side question; several of the owners in my hangar complex have installed electric winches to pull their planes in by the tail hook. I have never considered this option. Anyone know how strong the tail hook is on our planes? Quote
Bob_Belville Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 How about golf shoes? Talking older, pre softspike days. Probably not wise to step up on wing... Quote
Marauder Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 How about golf shoes? Talking older, pre softspike days. Probably not wise to step up on wing... That is my worry about any of the "spiked" options, I might be just dumb enough to climb my wing with them on. Oh, wait, I got an easy fix! I'll sell my Mooney and buy a Cessna! No chance of stepping on the wing then! Quote
aviatoreb Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 For a $12 pair of ice-specific spikes I wouldn't bother messing around with old golf shoes. Besides in cold weather it is nice to keep your shoes on. Plus you do walk kinda funny on them so that helps remind you not to get up on your wing. I suppose you could add to your winter preflight check list, "remove spiked shoe covers". These things are good - I did the winter man triathlon a few years ago (my wife did it this year) which is roughly (forgot the distances exactly) 7k speedskate, 7k cross country ski, 5k run - and you run the ice canal. Its nice to run with some traction on a zambonied track, so I used these - the yaktrak version. This is when I learned about them. Quote
David Mazer Posted February 6, 2013 Report Posted February 6, 2013 Thanks for the links. Much more kind to my already worn out wallet. A side question; several of the owners in my hangar complex have installed electric winches to pull their planes in by the tail hook. I have never considered this option. Anyone know how strong the tail hook is on our planes? I used a winch for several years until I needed to make a tight turn inside the hangar. As long as I was going straight in, it worked great. I just bolted it to the floor at the back of the hangar and it always pulled the plane right into place. Quote
fantom Posted February 7, 2013 Report Posted February 7, 2013 The only wench that I'd let pull my plane: Quote
aviatoreb Posted February 7, 2013 Report Posted February 7, 2013 The only wench that I'd let pull my plane: That's not a winch - that's a wench. Quote
Marauder Posted February 7, 2013 Report Posted February 7, 2013 The only wench that I'd let pull my plane: That's not a winch - that's a wench. She is going to have problems pushing my plane in too! I don't see spikes on her anywhere. Quote
fantom Posted February 7, 2013 Report Posted February 7, 2013 She is going to have problems pushing my plane in too! I don't see spikes on her anywhere. You guys are very demanding and I'm getting concerned about your priorities. Don't bolt this spiked wench to the floor, and it's OK if you're late to the fly-in. Quote
Hector Posted February 9, 2013 Report Posted February 9, 2013 The simpler solution to this icing problem is moving to FLORIDA! Problem solved. Quote
Flyin'There Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 I was in the market for a tug and found recent reviews on other forums discussing the problems various customers had with Minimax when their tugs didn't perform. There is a YouTube video review at www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OSBMS_D8_Y that shows the various problems. Based on what I've read, I'm now in the market for a used lawn tractor to convert to a tug. A $100-$200 used tractor sure beats any potential issues with Minimax's $1,400 tug. 1 Quote
Mooneymite Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 Seems like something like: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200455486_200455486 would work fine for getting a plane back in the hangar over a slippery slope. However, if the slope was too steep, a yoke to the two main gear might be necessary to prevent over-stressing the tail tie-down. NB: I don't have one, never used one and don't need one here in GA. Just speculating. Quote
TWinter Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 X2 for the Redline Sidewinder.. Works great! Quote
Bennett Posted June 26, 2015 Report Posted June 26, 2015 I've had a Robtow for about three years now. Totally reliable, and plenty of power to push and pull my J 1 Quote
Bob_Belville Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 I am delighted with my 24V Nose-Dragger Dragger. Particularly since I paid $300. for it. I think I've charges the 2 old 12V batteries I set up in series just once in 12 months. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/heavyDutydragger.php Quote
gsxrpilot Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 I don't use this for pushing the plane into the hanger, but it works good for pulling it a hundred yards across the gravel to get to the paved ramp, saving my prop from dings in the gravel. Quote
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