Rick Junkin Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 I posted this in the Mooney Bravo section, should have posted it here. Anyone have suggestions on how to proceed? I talked to Kenneth at International Avionics Inc and he’s getting me a quote to fabricate new lenses, and also repair/replace one of the LED blocks that has a segment out. Cheers, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A64Pilot Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 I wouldn’t put heat on one unless removed, and if it’s removed I’d replace it. ‘I’ve not seen them on a bravo, I’m assuming flat pieces of plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A64Pilot Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Are they like these? https://mooneyspace.com/topic/45443-trim-indicator-glass/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Junkin Posted June 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, A64Pilot said: I wouldn’t put heat on one unless removed, and if it’s removed I’d replace it. ‘I’ve not seen them on a bravo, I’m assuming flat pieces of plastic? Pictures in the linked post in my first post here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMooney Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Roll your own, look pretty simple to fabricate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Junkin Posted June 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, McMooney said: Roll your own, look pretty simple to fabricate Thanks, pictures of the ones you’ve fabricated and the methods used will be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc_B Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 I just peeled off the peeling layer, cleaned off with Goo Gone, and after I cleaned the lens off I applied a thin layer of Matte Clear paint to protect the surface. Worked great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc_B Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Rick Junkin said: I talked to Kenneth at International Avionics Inc @Rick Junkin Are the trim and multifunction lenses manufactured by IAI? I had previously reached out to Mooney as well as local plastics manufacturers and it was going to be a little difficult to get a proper piece made without a drawing schematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Junkin Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, Marc_B said: @Rick Junkin Are the trim and multifunction lenses manufactured by IAI? I had previously reached out to Mooney as well as local plastics manufacturers and it was going to be a little difficult to get a proper piece made without a drawing schematic. I’m working through that now with Kenneth. I talked to him earlier today and he said the indicators they manufactured had incandescent lights in them rather than LEDs, so I’ve sent him part numbers and pictures to see what we can work out. If he can’t help me I’ll proceed with my repair. My lenses have minor delamination and I was only able to remove the material that had separated. The rest of the top layer is still firmly bonded and can’t be peeled off. What I’ve accomplished so far looks a little ragged. That’s why I’m looking for a repair option. Applying heat to the removed lenses with a heat gun worked to satisfactorily smooth out the warping that had occurred. I’m planning to apply a matte vinyl film over the top surface that I’ve scraped to obtain a homogenous surface and then reinstall if new lenses aren’t possible. Cheers, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc_B Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 @Rick Junkin I’m surprised that even the heat didn’t make it just peel up. At least on my multifunction lens it was pretty easy to gently scrape up with a fingernail and peel away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Junkin Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Marc_B said: @Rick Junkin I’m surprised that even the heat didn’t make it just peel up. At least on my multifunction lens it was pretty easy to gently scrape up with a fingernail and peel away. Here are before and after pics, and before I applied heat to flatten the trim/flap lens. I had minor but annoying delamination, and actually had a bit of difficulty cleanly removing the small areas of delamination using a dental probe. What remains of the original top layer on both lenses is still firmly bonded. I have some matte vinyl film arriving today that I plan to apply over the whole surface to hopefully achieve a more uniform appearance. I'll post a pic of the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Those are just silk screen overlays. You could get new ones made for a few hundred bucks. And for a little bit more, you could make new ones for everybody. Or, you could support Mooney and have them order some new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Junkin Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said: Those are just silk screen overlays. You could get new ones made for a few hundred bucks. And for a little bit more, you could make new ones for everybody. Or, you could support Mooney and have them order some new ones. Yeah thanks that's helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, N201MKTurbo said: Those are just silk screen overlays. You could get new ones made for a few hundred bucks. And for a little bit more, you could make new ones for everybody. Or, you could support Mooney and have them order some new ones. When I re-did my Bravo panel in 2018, Mooney had them in stock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 I am thinking a bit of time with a Vinyl Printer and some clear vinyl and you are good to go. https://www.joann.com/disco-vinyl-fabric-clear/1532449.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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