DaV8or Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm new at this too. I'm assuming that once I recieve the AD, I must get the inspection done before further flying. Curious though if you are allowed a flight to the inspection location, or does it have to happen in my hangar? I'm also assuming I can do the inspection myself and have an A&P with IA sign off? I was hoping it was going to be an SB and could wait until annual in a few months, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I believe the FAA does not mail paper copies of ADs anymore. You need to sign up to receive electronic copies  http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/Frameset?OpenPage     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 If the AD is worded the same way as the current one for R and TN models, it will require the A&P who has done the inspection to send a report to Mooney and to the FAA (form is simple and on page 4 of the Mooney SB 20-313A). Rather unusual but what do I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabremech Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 The S/B compliance was in the next 10 hours of flight time. I suspect the AD will be worded similarly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Quote: OR75 I believe the FAA does not mail paper copies of ADs anymore. You need to sign up to receive electronic copies  http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/Frameset?OpenPage     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingsquirrel Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Quote: DaV8or I'm new at this too. I'm assuming that once I recieve the AD, I must get the inspection done before further flying. Curious though if you are allowed a flight to the inspection location, or does it have to happen in my hangar? I'm also assuming I can do the inspection myself and have an A&P with IA sign off? I was hoping it was going to be an SB and could wait until annual in a few months, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 You couldn't find a pilot to ferry it if it was loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 if your A&P is not on the field where you are based ...... spring is almost here .... make sure you invite him before the AD is issued for a bbq in the hangar after the AD is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingsquirrel Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 These have been flying for years improperly assembled, possibly loose, I checked mine again today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 ten thousand airframes and they found 3 improperly assembled. Thats pretty good odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Quote: jetdriven ten thousand airframes and they found 3 improperly assembled. Thats pretty good odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingsquirrel Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Quote: jetdriven You couldn't find a pilot to ferry it if it was loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urs_Wildermuth Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Done and all ok, as expected. Didn't take more than 15 Minutes but 2 ferry flights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-sky-captain Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Maxwell said it's a 20 minute process of inspecting it. I'm getting it done when I bring the plane down for some Corrosion X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingsquirrel Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I did my own inspection on an M20B. Signed the Service Bulletin and FAXED it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Can a private pilot do the inspection ? I thought it had to be done by an A&P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I'm curious how many owners have complied with all factory service bulletins and service instructions? With us being up to only S/B 314A and S/I 118 its not really a huge task. Clarence  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingsquirrel Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I'm sure I can't sign this off but it didn't keep me from doing the inspection and returning the card. I read the bulletin as having 10 hours of flight time before the inspection is due. I made myself responsible for this inspection found no issues. Next I'll get it signed off by a mechanic. I did find this little bit of information: "Service BulletinIssued by manufacturer to advise of service problems and solutions. The solution is not mandatory as with an AD. Maintenance Records. The owner or operator of an aircraft shall have an aircraft inspected as prescribed and shall between inspections have defects repaired as prescribed. Additionally, he shall ensure that maintenance personnel make appropriate entries in the aircraft records indicating that the aircraft has been released for service.Any record entry must include a complete description of the work done, date, and name of mechanic. If the mechanic signs the entry it indicates that the aircraft is returned to service. This signature is a pilot's assurance that the aircraft has been returned to service with the work completed." No work was required in my case. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N601RX Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Quote: OR75 Can a private pilot do the inspection ? I thought it had to be done by an A&P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 So let me try to get this straight. This SB 313A can be complied with by the owner alone. However, it's to become an AD, in which case an A & P has to do it? Seems like me doing it by myself now is a waste of time if I just have to do it again with an A & P. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Git 'er done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Also, anybody know why it is that Mooney posts all the SBs on their site, but not ADs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Dave. I believe that if you comply with M20-313A yourself, make your log book entry, then when the AD is issued, you will have already complied and no further action is require. That is my understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Quote: DaV8or So let me try to get this straight. This SB 313A can be complied with by the owner alone. However, it's to become an AD, in which case an A & P has to do it? Seems like me doing it by myself now is a waste of time if I just have to do it again with an A & P. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N601RX Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Quote: DaV8or So let me try to get this straight. This SB 313A can be complied with by the owner alone. However, it's to become an AD, in which case an A & P has to do it? Seems like me doing it by myself now is a waste of time if I just have to do it again with an A & P. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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