bcg Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 What would you get instead of a Mooney for the same mission? Don't get me wrong, I love my Mooney but sometimes I look at all the avionics and other options available for Experimental at 1/2 the cost and I get a little jealous. That certificate definitely adds some ownership expense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarlton Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, bcg said: What would you get instead of a Mooney for the same mission? Don't get me wrong, I love my Mooney but sometimes I look at all the avionics and other options available for Experimental at 1/2 the cost and I get a little jealous. That certificate definitely adds some ownership expense... For me, it would have to be something very different than a Mooney. A high wing (Vans, Sling, Glastar), or an RV-8 or a Velocity. A completely different experience. Always "dreamed" about a Berkut. Even visited the factory once. Wish they could have kept that going and made it easy to build. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Ellis Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 Since I fly by myself I guess I could consider something like a Curtiss P-40 or a P-51 in the same mission category.... But I think maybe a Pipestrel Panthera, even though I know nothing about them and they may be terrible airplanes...they look cool and fly fast. Or maybe a Lancair of some sort. I would avoid the Vans Aircraft line of planes just because I don't want to look dorky with my gear always hanging out... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, bcg said: What would you get instead of a Mooney for the same mission? There are very few 4-place Experimentals . . . And even fewer with reasonable fuel burn / mileage. Even my old C gets 15+ nmpg. My wife can't travel for a weekend with less luggage space than is provided by my back seat and baggage area, stacked to the ceiling. That eliminates many, many Experimentals, and the 500+ AMUs to purchase some that may work eliminates many more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 I would want to go to the next level… and follow Turbine Tom in his Lanceair… I’m not a big fan of Experiemntal… but Lanceair is certainly one of the best… The person doing the building… has a huge impact on the final result… Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolter Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 In terms of similarly capable to several Mooney models (speed, range, useful load, 4 place) I think the RV-10 is a good candidate. It is cheaper than very new long bodies, but more expensive than most Mooney's. -dan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL757 Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, bcg said: What would you get instead of a Mooney for the same mission? Without a doubt... (courtesy of Controller) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 The evolution appears extra big… Might be the long legs it is standing on… Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 47 minutes ago, StevenL757 said: Without a doubt... (courtesy of Controller) Oh, yes! It’d have to have some substantial red paint though 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 RV-10 if I really needed four seats, otherwise RV-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver LFA Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Whenever I look at a RV10 I think that would be a great replacement for my 67 F, but when I step away and look at the much higher acquisition costs, the build time, higher fuel burn for the same speed, and lower baggage compartment weight capacity, I am happy to keep my old Mooney another year. While a new experimental with all the wizz bang electronics would be nice, I just want to fly and a lightweight 67 F with manual gear/flaps and a couple simple ADs sure is hard to improve upon. Edited February 7, 2023 by Culver LFA 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Gal Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Canadian Gal said: https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php Holy crap! Can you imagine that with the 1400 hp turbine???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 5TJ Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 I’m starting to think about selling the turboprop and getting a LSA or similar experimental. Fixed gear. Rotax. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planegary Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, Canadian Gal said: https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php I like the way you think. The Mustang has always been my favorite aircraft.now if I could only win the lottery….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Canadian Gal said: https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/kitspages/mustang.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Hank said: Holy crap! Can you imagine that with the 1400 hp turbine???? How much transition training would be required for that much hp? 1) A week… 2) A month… 3) A year… All the excess HP… + it’s a tail wheel… The torque effects must be huge… Rotating wind stream at a maximum… and the Coriolis affect as the tail wheel rises… T/O procedure probably includes dance steps of a salsa dance… on the rudders… Sounds like a blast! Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviatoreb Posted February 10, 2023 Report Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, carusoam said: How much transition training would be required for that much hp? 1) A week… 2) A month… 3) A year… All the excess HP… + it’s a tail wheel… The torque effects must be huge… Rotating wind stream at a maximum… and the Coriolis affect as the tail wheel rises… T/O procedure probably includes dance steps of a salsa dance… on the rudders… Sounds like a blast! Best regards, -a- How long did it take them to train pilots from zero experience to combat theater in a P51 in WWII? That is such an interesting airplane. If I were just a little more nutty - I would get one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 13 hours ago, aviatoreb said: How long did it take them to train pilots from zero experience to combat theater in a P51 in WWII? That is such an interesting airplane. If I were just a little more nutty - I would get one! Not enough… Those boys had their orders, tools, and fuel… training was on the fly… What my mis-worded question was intended to mean… How much time it would it take ME to learn to fly a beast like that..! It has some upside… 1) Plenty of HP 2) Composite construction of a laminar wing…. Extra smooooth. Need to look up the cruise speed for that…! and see if the prop can be put in beta mode… for braking. Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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