Grumman Tiger Divorcées

[gwav8or]

Any former Grumman Tiger owners that transitioned to a Pre-J Mooney in the group?

 

I used to own a Tiger but am in the process of finding my Mooney. Wondering if anybody here could share their transition experience as well as any characteristics of the Mooney that you like or dislike as compared to a Grumman Tiger.

 

 

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[exM20K]

not a perfect match, but I believe @Glen Davis owned a Tiger before his 201.

-dan

[Glen Davis]

What do you mean, Dan, not a perfect match? I owned a Grumman tiger and now I own an M20J. I’m at Sun and fun but will reach out to this individual as soon as I can.


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[LANCECASPER]

52 minutes ago, gwav8or said:

 

Any former Grumman Tiger owners that transitioned to a Pre-J Mooney in the group?

 

I used to own a Tiger but am in the process of finding my Mooney. Wondering if anybody here could share their transition experience as well as any characteristics of the Mooney that you like or dislike as compared to a Grumman Tiger.

 

 

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30 years ago I owned a Tiger. You’ll find the Mooney easier to taxi for sure 

You should have an easy transition, just make sure you put the gear down, get the speeds right and you’ll be fine. I live on the Airpark where Fletchair is located and see Grumman’s come and go every week.

[gwav8or]

30 years ago I owned a Tiger. You’ll find the Mooney easier to taxi for sure 
You should have an easy transition, just make sure you put the gear down, get the speeds right and you’ll be fine. I live on the Airpark where Fletchair is located and see Grumman’s come and go every week.

The hardest thing about the Tiger was pushing it back into the hangar! IFYKYK


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[gwav8or]

1 hour ago, Glen Davis said:

What do you mean, Dan, not a perfect match? I owned a Grumman tiger and now I own an M20J. I’m at Sun and fun but will reach out to this individual as soon as I can.


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I think he is referring to my request comparing the Pre-J models to the Tiger as not a "perfect match".  But, I'd be happy to hear  your experience once you get back from SnF!

[carusoam]

The coolest thing about the Mooney when compared to the slower Tiger…

Loading the young family on a rainy day….

Open the door… everyone files in…

Very little water gets close to the fancy seats…

Toss the umbrellas in baggage area, the door opens vertically like a natural rain cover…

Doors close easily… nobody gets yelled at…

 

Tiger… slide the canopy back… start yelling hurry, hurry, hurry, my fancy seats are getting wet!   
 

Even the art of closing and storing the umbrella in the back is more challenging in a Tiger…

 

PP Biased opinion only… not a Grumman pilot…
 

Best regards,

-a-

[philip_g]

I'd rather have a tiger than my j

[gwav8or]

I'd rather have a tiger than my j

April Fools was a few days ago. Are you serious?


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[carusoam]

3 minutes ago, gwav8or said:

April Fools was a few days ago. Are you serious?


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He may have left out an important detail…

Imagine living on an island paradise….

With the worlds best X-country machine at your fingertips…

Your daily decision… Speed, Efficiency, or both…?

Then reality strikes…

Paradise isn’t big enough to use a fast plane…

The next stop is pretty far away over long distances of water….

Rises in fuel price and inflation must be worse there than most places on the planet…

With all that… bitterness may set in…

Sort of the down side of Eden…

 

For the rest of the world…

Go Mooney!

Best regards,

-a-

[carusoam]

20 minutes ago, gwav8or said:

April Fools was a few days ago. Are you serious?


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How serious can he be… posting negative Mooney thoughts on THE Mooney-centric website…?

 

He may have left out an important detail…

Imagine living on an island paradise….

With the worlds best X-country machine at your fingertips…

Your daily decision… Speed, Efficiency, or both…?

Then reality strikes…

Paradise isn’t big enough to use a fast plane…

The next stop is pretty far away over long distances of water….

Rises in fuel price and inflation must be worse there than most places on the planet…

With all that… Some bitterness may set in…

Sort of the down side, or even the dark side, of Eden…

 

On the other hand…

The last guy to fly a Mooney out of Hawaii… Moved to California, started MooneySpace, was last seen piloting a twin….

 

For the rest of the world…

Go Mooney!

Best regards,

-a-

[gwav8or]

How serious can he be… posting negative Mooney thoughts on THE Mooney-centric website…?
 
He may have left out an important detail…
Imagine living on an island paradise….
With the worlds best X-country machine at your fingertips…
Your daily decision… Speed, Efficiency, or both…?

Then reality strikes…
Paradise isn’t big enough to use a fast plane…
The next stop is pretty far away over long distances of water….

Rises in fuel price and inflation must be worse there than most places on the planet…
With all that… Some bitterness may set in…
Sort of the down side, or even the dark side, of Eden…
 
On the other hand…
The last guy to fly a Mooney out of Hawaii… Moved to California, started MooneySpace, was last seen piloting a twin….
 
For the rest of the world…
Go Mooney!

Best regards,
-a-

Oooohhh that makes sense. Tnx


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[carusoam]

2 minutes ago, gwav8or said:

Oooohhh that makes sense. Tnx


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Hard to tell the players without a score card…

 

Go MS!
 

-a-

[philip_g]

2 hours ago, gwav8or said:

April Fools was a few days ago. Are you serious?


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Why wouldn't I be? The Grumman is easier to get in and out of. Not a whole lot slower. And much more comfortable to taxi and fly with the canopy cracked. Plus I think they're more fun to fly.

[gwav8or]

Why wouldn't I be? The Grumman is easier to get in and out of. Not a whole lot slower. And much more comfortable to taxi and fly with the canopy cracked. Plus I think they're more fun to fly.

If I still had my Tiger, I’d offer to trade you straight over.


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[philip_g]

2 minutes ago, gwav8or said:

If I still had my Tiger, I’d offer to trade you straight over.


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Theres a guy on field with one of the newer tigers. I think he owns a bravo or acclaim on the mainland. One of these days he'll sell it and I'll own it. He never ours any hours on it but it's pretty pristine... Until he hit a light a few months ago and dinged the wing pretty good.
 

You could throw your airplane away and buy a j there and it would probably be cheaper than shipping a tiger here and ferrying a j back.

Edited April 7, 2022 by philip_g

[gwav8or]

Theres a guy on field with one of the newer tigers. I think he owns a bravo or acclaim on the mainland. One of these days he'll sell it and I'll own it. He never ours any hours on it but it's pretty pristine... Until he hit a light a few months ago and dinged the wing pretty good.
 
You could throw your airplane away and buy a j there and it would probably be cheaper than shipping a tiger here and ferrying a j back.

I was honestly just making a joke…. Hope you get to own the Tiger soon.


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[M20F-1968]

I did my instrument training in a Grumman Tiger.  At that point I had only flown a Mooney 1 hour.

The Grumman is very light on the controls, fun to fly, not as stable on the ground and a lighter airplane with much less capability.  It is easier to get in on a dry day, but you wish you were climbing in a Mooney is a bad rain storm.

My F model (now really a J with manual gear and hydraulic flaps) is heavier on the controls (due to the push rod linkages) but is equally as sensitive.  Elevator and aileron controls in both is just a nudge in level flight.  The Mooney however is much more stable, has much more range (I have long range tanks), is a better IFR platform, and mine is turbonormalized so has much better service ceiling.  Both are slippery airplanes and are floaters, but surprisingly so, I think the Mooney may be more so than the Grumman despite the fact that it is a heavier airplane.  Structurally, there is no comparison.  The Mooney is the preferred airplane in my opinion overall.

John Breda

[201Steve]

I almost bought a tiger until I realized it would actually be cheaper to own a J mooney that goes faster, farther, and more substantial of a platform. I had read an AOPA article about the Tiger being a “bargain buy” for what you get for the money. My experience 3+ years ago was the exact opposite. Although a mostly helpful community, those Tiger lovers think they are flying TBM’s as far as value goes. 

[WaynePierce]

I wouldn't mind owning a Tiger, if it was given to me by AOPA.

 

[steingar]

Had I a Tiger I doubt I would switch unless it was a 201 or better.  The Tiger is just a fairly similar aircraft.  That said, I routinely lampoon the Grumman Gang.  A similarly equipped Tiger sells for a lot more than the short body Mooney that can handily outrun it.  Indeed they sell for 201 prices, and at that point it isn't even a comparison.

[A64Pilot]

It’s funny how you guys talk about getting in, in the rain. 

I miss the C-210 or my Maule for that, it’s really the best thing about a high wing, sun shade for airplane camping, and something to stand under in the rain

[A64Pilot]

To me canopies with a clear window over your head are HOT, you have to have a sun shade, which negates the utility of a clear top

A Rans RV for example is just too hot for me. But I don’t live in the Great white North either.

Edited April 11, 2022 by A64Pilot

[Pstone]

For transitioning from a Tiger to a Mooney, start with a M20D.

 

[TheAv8r]

Flew a Tiger for over 250hrs before buying my Mooney! I looked into buying one, but the price for them has skyrocketed. They are a niche airplane: the canopy, visibility, crisp light handling on the controls, 130+ Knots on 10gph fixed gear, a low wing you can get in on both sides, they just don’t make many planes like that. They also didn’t make a ton of them, so supply & demand. My wife and I fly XC a lot more than we used to so a Mooney was a better mission fit, but Tigers are more fun to fly IMO and more enjoyable. Nothing beats landing, throwing the canopy back on a hot day and smiling in the breeze. Or spinning like a Tailwheel over a parking spot with the free castering  nose wheel. That is, until you have to push it back in the hangar