hubcap Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 Long story short - plane in for annual and discover prop blade needs to be replaced. 2 months lead time from Hartzell. I really NEED a prop to get me by for the next two months. I will buy a used one to get me by. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 @Cody Stallings is our local propeller professional. He may have one, or know where to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Stallings Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 Unfortunately I don’t have anything to offer. Why does a blade need to be replaced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Cody Stallings said: Unfortunately I don’t have anything to offer. Why does a blade need to be replaced? Probably because the shop told him to send it to the prop shop down the street, and they ground the blades to limits and then declared it unairworthy. But that’s just me Edited September 5, 2021 by jetdriven 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT20J Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 That’s exactly why I did a reseal rather than an overhaul on the prop when I replaced the engine. My prop shop even recommended that. Same with Slick mags. Again, recommended by mag shop. The really good shops try to save you money rather than rip you off. Skip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 hours ago, jetdriven said: Probably because the ship told him to send it to the prop shop down the street, and they ground the blades to limits and then declared it unairworthy. But that’s just me Geez, that hurts, man! I'm still sore about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will.iam Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 Backstory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubcap Posted September 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 Had to send the prop out to repair electrical leads. It had less than 200 hrs before TBO so I agreed we may as well overhaul…..one blade out of spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 6 hours ago, hubcap said: Had to send the prop out to repair electrical leads. It had less than 200 hrs before TBO so I agreed we may as well overhaul…..one blade out of spec. How many overhauls on this prop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubcap Posted September 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Shadrach said: How many overhauls on this prop? I do not know the answer to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Shadrach said: How many overhauls on this prop? You can replace the boot on the airplane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, jetdriven said: You can replace the boot on the airplane. I know, I just want to know how many times the blades have been ground. Mine has three OHs on it and I was told there was adequate material to expect a fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N231BN Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 https://www.barnstormers.com/category-20608-Mooney--M20K.htmlCouple of choices here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetrn Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) have you looked into a MT 3 blade prop? Edited September 5, 2021 by Jetrn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 9/4/2021 at 8:23 PM, PT20J said: That’s exactly why I did a reseal rather than an overhaul on the prop when I replaced the engine. My prop shop even recommended that. Same with Slick mags. Again, recommended by mag shop. The really good shops try to save you money rather than rip you off. Skip I don’t think that sending a prop in for overhaul every 10 years like we do in Canada is ripping anyone off, it might just save someone’s life. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 10 hours ago, hubcap said: Had to send the prop out to repair electrical leads. It had less than 200 hrs before TBO so I agreed we may as well overhaul…..one blade out of spec. What make and model? Knowing this would be helpful Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT20J Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, M20Doc said: I don’t think that sending a prop in for overhaul every 10 years like we do in Canada is ripping anyone off, it might just save someone’s life. Clarence The difference, as explained to me by a large northwest prop shop is that an overhaul requires that every operation in the overhaul manual be completed. With a reseal, they do exactly the same level of inspection and replace necessary parts, but they have more discretion regarding not performing operations that they deem unnecessary. Re-profiling the blades is often not necessary for safety and is destructive because it removes metal and you can only do it so many times before you have to throw the blade out. In my case they stripped the blades, checked for damage/cracks per the overhaul manual, cleaned up nicks on the leading edges and faces and backs and repainted. The prop is inspected, has new wear parts, is lubricated and is airworthy at minimal cost and loss of service life. Skip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will.iam Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Jetrn said: have you looked into a MT 3 blade prop? Does MT make a 2 bladed prop for M20K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubcap Posted September 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, M20Doc said: What make and model? Knowing this would be helpful Clarence My prop is a Hartzell 2-blade with q-tips......I have the exact model but not with me at the moment. I am willing to purchase a prop of a different make or model just to get me by for a couple of months. Edited September 6, 2021 by hubcap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubcap Posted September 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 I have been unable to find any prop that I can purchase, install and fly. I will have new blades from Hartzell for my prop around October 20th. No flying until probably November for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N231BN Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 I have been unable to find any prop that I can purchase, install and fly. I will have new blades from Hartzell for my prop around October 20th. No flying until probably November for me.Did you call on any of those Ad's on barnstormers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubcap Posted September 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, N231BN said: 31 minutes ago, hubcap said: I have been unable to find any prop that I can purchase, install and fly. I will have new blades from Hartzell for my prop around October 20th. No flying until probably November for me. Did you call on any of those Ad's on barnstormers? Yes, I did. They were not available. I think they may have had one prop without a spinner. They told me that particular spinner was impossible to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor_U Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 On 9/5/2021 at 7:05 PM, PT20J said: The difference, as explained to me by a large northwest prop shop is that an overhaul requires that every operation in the overhaul manual be completed. With a reseal, they do exactly the same level of inspection and replace necessary parts, but they have more discretion regarding not performing operations that they deem unnecessary. Re-profiling the blades is often not necessary for safety and is destructive because it removes metal and you can only do it so many times before you have to throw the blade out. In my case they stripped the blades, checked for damage/cracks per the overhaul manual, cleaned up nicks on the leading edges and faces and backs and repainted. The prop is inspected, has new wear parts, is lubricated and is airworthy at minimal cost and loss of service life. Skip Skip, I'm just curious, can you name a shop? AC or NW prop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT20J Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Igor_U said: Skip, I'm just curious, can you name a shop? AC or NW prop? Dick Jacob at NW Propeller. He did a great job on the props for the Historic Flight Foundation’s DC-3 also. But I also know people that have used AC and are quite happy with their work. Skip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor_U Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, PT20J said: Dick Jacob at NW Propeller. He did a great job on the props for the Historic Flight Foundation’s DC-3 also. But I also know people that have used AC and are quite happy with their work. Skip Good to know. Mike at AC is good but somewhat trigger happy to steer people to do full OH and not re-seal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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