A64Pilot Posted April 6, 2021 Report Share Posted April 6, 2021 On another thread we got to talking about privacy and among other things how anyone can see everywhere we fly by using Flight Aware and other agencies. ‘Well another member brought up LADD https://ladd.faa.gov ‘Well it’s free, painless, simply register on the above link and voila after the first Thursday of the month you will no longer be able to be tracked. ‘My tail number is N1141N go ahead and try to track me and see if you can, I’m sort of interested if you can, from my admittedly very limited computer skills, it seems that you can’t. ‘Maybe you guys already knew this, I didn’t to me it was a revelation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964-M20E Posted April 6, 2021 Report Share Posted April 6, 2021 Just wondering f you can reverse it as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted April 6, 2021 Report Share Posted April 6, 2021 I may have to wait for you... but I think I know where to look... It would be nice to remove all addresses from the connection to the tail number... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A64Pilot Posted April 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 13 hours ago, carusoam said: I may have to wait for you... but I think I know where to look... It would be nice to remove all addresses from the connection to the tail number... Best regards, -a- That’s still the original owner, you’ll find him. ‘FAA is apparently at least 60 days behind updating the database, after I become the registered owner, then I was going to ask you guys how easy or hard it is to find my name, not the LLC that’s the registered owner, but me. The company that is the Agent for the LLC supposedly provides anonymity and the State they are in apparently allows that, or they aren’t telling the truth, who knows? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A64Pilot Posted April 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, 1964-M20E said: Just wondering f you can reverse it as well? Yes but it takes apparently to the first Thurs of every month to take effect, and it’s free. There is an intermediary selection too, but I don’t remember what it was. ‘I believe if you choose that intermediary selection and then pay Flight Aware some money, then you can set up a list of people who are allowed to track you. ‘However if you have a Garmin Inreach or Spot, then if you give them the url, friends can track you too, and of course you can simply turn the Spot or Inreach off. Edited April 7, 2021 by A64Pilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragsf15e Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 I did this a few months back as well. What I don’t like is that the FAA registration has my full name and address available to anyone who types in my tail number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotX Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 17 hours ago, A64Pilot said: On another thread we got to talking about privacy and among other things how anyone can see everywhere we fly by using Flight Aware and other agencies. ‘Well another member brought up LADD https://ladd.faa.gov ‘Well it’s free, painless, simply register on the above link and voila after the first Thursday of the month you will no longer be able to be tracked. ‘My tail number is N1141N go ahead and try to track me and see if you can, I’m sort of interested if you can, from my admittedly very limited computer skills, it seems that you can’t. ‘Maybe you guys already knew this, I didn’t to me it was a revelation You are still trackable, if only you know where to look. 900AGL/95KTS when I looked. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a03d97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisV Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 When I first got my ADS-B transponder installed I signed up for the blocking and it worked. About a year later I decided that I want to review the flights on flight aware. So I switched to the middle option in LADD, the one that only websites that I subscribe to should show it. LIES! This is not the case, anyone can see my flights. Maybe the FAA put me on the wrong list, but I really don't care. So you can either have them totally blocked, or totally public, despite what the FAA says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A64Pilot Posted April 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, PilotX said: You are still trackable, if only you know where to look. 900AGL/95KTS when I looked. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a03d97 Interesting, yes that was part of the ILS, but only part. I had a squawk and was up approach for the whole arc, missed etc. ‘Wonder if that was a fluke, or are they receiving ADSB themselves and not relying on the the FAA to provide data? Just looked and there is no history available for all of March and only the 6th of Apr? I’ve of course flown more than that Edited April 7, 2021 by A64Pilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT20J Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 There are a lot of sources besides the FAA. Check out FlightAware’s website to see where they get data. FlightAware told me that if you block through LADD then they won’t post your data from any source. But, then if you want to see data for a blocked aircraft for which you are the owner or operator you have to buy a premium version of the service. Skip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshCox19 Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, A64Pilot said: ‘Wonder if that was a fluke, or are they receiving ADSB themselves and not relying on the the FAA to provide data? ADSB exchange doesn't get any data from the FAA, so they don't care about LADD or any other restrictions Edited April 8, 2021 by JoshCox19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A64Pilot Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 10 hours ago, JoshCox19 said: ADSB exchange doesn't get any data from the FAA, so they don't care about LADD or any other restrictions So where do they get the data? Do they have their own receivers? Surely the registration data is FAA? Why do they exist? what’s the purpose? Who funds them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A64Pilot Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) Looked up the ADSB exchange thing, there are a lot of nuts out there willing to spend their own money and time to make some people they will never meet money I guess. Brave New World I guess Edited April 8, 2021 by A64Pilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, A64Pilot said: So where do they get the data? Do they have their own receivers? Surely the registration data is FAA? Why do they exist? what’s the purpose? Who funds them? There are ADS-B receivers you can put in your PCs and APPs that publish the ADS-B returns on the web. There are 10s of thousands of these. There are even geeks that will sit at the end of runways and update private databases with the N#s associated with ADS-B codes. They will also listen to live ATC and correlate N-numbers with anonymous targets and update the databases. So having the FAA hide your data doesn't do much these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A64Pilot Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 6 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said: There are ADS-B receivers you can put in your PCs and APPs that publish the ADS-B returns on the web. There are 10s of thousands of these. There are even geeks that will sit at the end of runways and update private databases with the N#s associated with ADS-B codes. They will also listen to live ATC and correlate N-numbers with anonymous targets and update the databases. So having the FAA hide your data doesn't do much these days. Yeah, I read that on their site, as I said it’s amazing how many people will spend their time and money, to make others money, because you know someone is making money from that, how I’m not sure. ‘You do what you can I guess, I’m just astonished it’s legal, so far as I know you can’t do that with automobiles etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, A64Pilot said: Yeah, I read that on their site, as I said it’s amazing how many people will spend their time and money, to make others money, because you know someone is making money from that, how I’m not sure. ‘You do what you can I guess, I’m just astonished it’s legal, so far as I know you can’t do that with automobiles etc. Only because the data from the cars is encrypted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964-M20E Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 flight aware gets some of their info from private people installing ADSB listening posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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