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2 years ago I installed airbags as a little feel good insurance. We went with AmSafe "State of the Art Restraint System" (SOARS), Part Number K7336. Unfortunately, if someone pulls out a seat without first disconnecting the electrical cable between the sensor and the seat, the cable connector breaks at the squib. AmSafe sells a replacement cable, part number is 513047-405-18 but it is a shocking $531.89 with 6 week lead time. The connector itself is automotive, manufactured by Delphi TTI (now Aptiv) in a connector family type ABX-3 with part number 47304601. The connector retails for $3.97 but it is backordered with a minimum quantity of 400 which would be $1,588.

I've called the big aircraft salvage yards (Preferred, Dodson, KRN, Beegles) and none have airbag parts.

If I could find the automotive application, we could potentially find an alternate. A 90 degree or 180 degree (straight) connector would work. Does anyone have a lead on this part or a working alternate to share?

I've attached a few mediocre close up shots of the connector; it's fairly small.

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Probably a stupid suggestion, but perhaps you can exchange both ends with something similar that is currently available? Or even go milspec instead of automotive, so it is "better than original" ;)

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@carusoam I sent a message to Paul Maxwell, I'll let you know what he says, 

@tmo, I have not found any alternate part number to cross reference.  

@Mark89114, the auto guys need to know the make, model and year of the auto; but I have not been able to figure out what autos use this connector.  

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Nick - thanks for the lead on the alternate part - the one side does look like it might fit.  For the folks on this thread: Doeman clock spring PN 525-101.

Other Beechtalk folks recommended checking with Textron; Amsafe is a factory option on late 182 & 206 aircraft and they stock a fair number of bits for these systems.

 

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13 hours ago, ikeanddee said:

Nick - thanks for the lead on the alternate part - the one side does look like it might fit.  For the folks on this thread: Doeman clock spring PN 525-101.

Other Beechtalk folks recommended checking with Textron; Amsafe is a factory option on late 182 & 206 aircraft and they stock a fair number of bits for these systems.

 

I would think twice and twice again before installing a Dorman part on my plane. Dorman is the punchline for most jokes in the automotive world. They make parts so you can sel your car and make it someone else’s problem. No legitimate shop would install a Dorman part on a car. 

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Ok, I was looking at using the connector body, which this part, in cross referencing is using the connector body he is looking at.  I would agree I don’t care for Dorman parts but that is far cheaper than his other options found so far.  But if it has the piece he needs....

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On a private thread late yesterday, a kind soul offered to mail me their OEM bag connector.  Apparently when the OEM bags time-out, they have to be replaced, leaving this husk behind. Yesterday I contacted AmSafe tech support. The design between the SOARS STC bags and the built in OEM belts are electrically different. The built in bags have a sensor to ensure the belt is buckled; the SOARS bags have no belt buckled sensor, just a G sensor, so the SOARS bags can trigger weather the belt is buckled or not. At any rate, AmSafe had half a dozen reasons why the parts are not interchangeable, but did admit that the squib connectors are the same. The squib end requires some disassembly to recover and the black connector shown above is a right angle vs a straight through (for the squib end). That all said, my mechanic and I believe it will work on the squib end. The mechanic's plan is to disassemble the plastic housing and put it on my cable / contacts since the contacts were thankfully not damaged. So long as the keying is the same and the clearance permits the right angle (it should), then we expect it will work. At any rate, I should have the parts mid-next week and best case will have a final answer by next weekend. I'll catch folks up on the thread once I have that answer.

 

 

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I have some timed out items removed from. Late T182T. You are welcome to what’s left. Not sure what the connectors look like. 

Such a PITA. I mean a 182 can touch down at 40kts? This year the battery modules are due for exchange.

-Matt

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Good News, the right angle connectors off the old seatbelt worked perfectly.  The mechanic pulled off the plastic housing and put it around the old connectors - voila. It's a match.  I've also cooked up a tag for the cotter key to warn folks to disconnect the airbag wire before removing the seats.

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