Slowride Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Looking for suggestions for a nose wheel tug for my m20c. Least expensive would be niceĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Old riding lawn mower or golf cart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowride Posted February 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Tried golf cart. Seems a little rough on the gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Whatever you use, get a long towbar, go slow and be careful. It will be very easy to overturn the nosewheel and dent the strut.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan nephin Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Garden tractor with hydrostatic drive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Welcome aboard SlowR.... There are lots of options... From expensive to CB specials... Some are even assembled from parts in the aviation aisle at HD... Around here, there are dozens of threads covering the topic from tow bars to tugs... One of the coolest tugs has been documented on how to build your own. TheĀ popular portable powered one, costs over 1.5AMU... The search function can probably help you with all the details... there are plenty, and they are all here... changing the gearing/pulley in your current cart may be a good idea... Ā (what do you mean by tough on the gear?) Powered devices can easily be slowed down...one way or another... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 oh... hey... Ā Letās help Andrew out a bit... Ā Ā The title of the thread is interesting... It can be edited by the OP... The screen name can be edited as well... in case you want to be Andrew, discussing a slow ride... Instead of Slow ride, discussing Andrew... Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowride Posted February 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Thanks for the input. New older Mooney owner. Made an extended tow bar out steel tubing. Seems very jerky on the nose wheel and ended up bending the part that inserted in the recess on the wheel. Thinking a commercial tug is cheaper than damaged airplane. Tight maneuvering in hangar with my other attitude adjustment tools. PS. I am loving the m20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowride Posted February 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 PPS. Slowride is my nickname in my working endeavor as a lineman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 I went a similar route... using a repurposed lawn tractor...Ā Selecting the lowest gear possible... and selecting the throttle lever in a very low setting... and has a clutch to slowly start things moving... Things happen quickly... more so in tight quarters... Hard to watch where the plane is going and the nose gear at the same time... Another option discussed around here is electric winches mounted at the back of the hangar... Kind of slow and jerky at the same time... but really low cost... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Do you have to push it up a hill? Iāve foundĀ that the manual method works best on flat surfaces. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Light fuel weight, Ā M20C, no hills... Ā Ā I didnāt get anything powered until the Mooney had to go up hill into the hangar... Unless it is empty... the O weighs enough to make it difficult for one person to press it up hill... If anyone gives you a hard time about manually moving your M20C... tell them you are saving for some kidās college or an M20R... Ā Ā Best regards, -a- Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 My M20-C is much easier to move around by hand than the C172s I flew as a student pilot . . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takair Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Slowride said: Looking for suggestions for a nose wheel tug for my m20c. Least expensive would be niceĀ Where are you located? Ā Iāve been helping a friend find one and they surprisingly pop up on Craigslist or Barnstormers quite frequently. Ā They are often in the wrong part of the country, but if you are patient you will find a bargain. Ā Do you have a budget to stay in? Ā The better usedĀ ones seem to range from $500 to $1200 at the low end. Ā Getting them toĀ you might be the bigger issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT20J Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Golf carts seemĀ cheap until you have to replace the batteries.Ā Many (including me) like the Sidewinder, but itās not cheap. Used ones show up from time to time.Ā Skip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Another option discussed around here is electric winches mounted at the back of the hangar... Kind of slow and jerky at the same time... but really low cost...Even lower cost is some pulley blocks, 4:1 or 6:1 will give you the necessary leverage, no jerking and great control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowride Posted February 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 8 hours ago, takair said: Where are you located? Ā Iāve been helping a friend find one and they surprisingly pop up on Craigslist or Barnstormers quite frequently. Ā They are often in the wrong part of the country, but if you are patient you will find a bargain. Ā Do you have a budget to stay in? Ā The better usedĀ ones seem to range from $500 to $1200 at the low end. Ā Getting them toĀ you might be the bigger issue. N72. Warwick NY.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takair Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Slowride said: N72. Warwick NY.Ā Not far from me! Ā There is one on Facebook marketplace for $1250....not far from you. Ā As I recall, Craigslist has one on LongIsland for about the same price. Ā If you PM me your number or email I can share links if I came across one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planegary Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 what about this? Build it yourself and a turntable to prevent oversteer damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradp Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 I bought @jetdrivens old power tow I when he upgraded to a sidewinder. Ā Thing fires right up and works. Fits under the wing and suits my needs. Itās a good economy route if you canāt find a running mower for a good price. Ā I like itās a bit more precise and I can feel sufficiently to not oversteer.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 17 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: Even lower cost is some pulley blocks, 4:1 or 6:1 will give you the necessary leverage, no jerking and great control. I tried something similar from HF.... Proved that HF doesnāt have an aviation aisle... Ā For something that was supposed to lift 1kLbs... it got all messed up the first time... Undersized bits and pieces... with a cheap nylon stringĀ like substance... Great idea... just wrong execution... I have just a slight incline... over 20ā. So... SR, if going manual pulleys... get some big pulleys and a real rope... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 On 2/2/2021 at 12:04 AM, carusoam said: I tried something similar from HF.... Proved that HF doesnāt have an aviation aisle... Ā For something that was supposed to lift 1kLbs... it got all messed up the first time... Undersized bits and pieces... with a cheap nylon stringĀ like substance... Great idea... just wrong execution... I have just a slight incline... over 20ā. So... SR, if going manual pulleys... get some big pulleys and a real rope... Best regards, -a- You want quality sailing hardware, Harken blocks for example, and high quality line. It works well, but you need to know how to flake line (arrange rope for immediate use for those with no nautical experience) otherwise the line(rope)Ā will tangle and jam the blocks.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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