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On 1/17/2021 at 4:05 PM, kortopates said:

The Bravo seems to be the most under valued airframe in the fleet for some time now. It doesn't make sense IMO.


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I think people shy away from the turbo and high fuel consumption. It's easy to compare an Encore or 252 to a Bravo and balk at 18-19 gph cruise. Again, its all about what you want and are willing to pay for. Both 252s and Bravos are great airplanes. I went with a Bravo because when running the TAS and fuel burn, for long distance travel it isn't a huge difference. I've flown and owned both NA and turbo aircraft. For long distance travel, I'd take a turbo any day. I typically fly in the high teens and low FLs and usually hear, "cleared direct destination" 500+ miles out. I am very happy with my Bravo. 

 

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While I strongly believe, that over time, the market is always what determines the price. I do believe however that the market values the Bravo where it is because it's "misunderstood".  The engi

While I have no bravo time, I have a large amount of ovation and acclaim time.   To say that they are basically the same plane below 10,000’ just is not accurate.  They can be flown at near identi

The Encore conversion on N252AD is in progress and hope to be completed and flying in a few more weeks.  When I first signed on to MooneySpace years ago, @Parker_Woodruff was talking about his En

On 1/18/2021 at 10:14 PM, carusoam said:

I got to pick up the top of a raw carbon fiber O cowl... at the last KOSH event... while speaking with Kevin Kramer...

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For each pound up front, a similar lead weight comes out of the back... proper WnB calcs are important...

We would be double dipping in UL benefits! :)

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Turbos are generally nose heavy and the CG with two full sized adults in the front seats and no luggage, is at or over the limit. Even if a counterweight does not come out, it would be a big help in my aircraft. I am hearing 70-80 lbs. lighter, which is hard to believe, but it came from a good source.

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15 minutes ago, jlunseth said:

Turbos are generally nose heavy and the CG with two full sized adults in the front seats and no luggage, is at or over the limit. Even if a counterweight does not come out, it would be a big help in my aircraft. I am hearing 70-80 lbs. lighter, which is hard to believe, but it came from a good source.

Don't forget that the M20K standard fuel is quite a bit higher than M20J standard fuel.  So that is part of why the lower full fuel useful load.  Of course the other part is the engine.

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