quik flite Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just got off the phone with Phillips Oil Tech Rep , for those of you not flying enough, he confirmed and recommended that a 10 percent dose of Anti Rust Phillips 20/50 oil mixed with Phillips XC 20/50 is recommended and will help protect your engine all the way to TBO. I think he said It will help immensely. Mixed at 10 percent Anti Rust Oil Phillips.20/50 and 90 percent 20/50XC Phillips, Now you guys and girls can rest easy. No more worries ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unit74 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 That’s about a quart per oil change. How much is this product and what’s it cost vs Camguard? More importantly, where is the independent data validating it does what it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quik flite Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 gallon is approximately 28 to 32 dollars. It’s been around a long time and meets proper specifications required by engine manufacturers , for aircraft piston engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Where is our cam guard scientist working lately? Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, carusoam said: Where is our cam guard scientist working lately? Best regards, -a- Is that a question...or is that a statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, M016576 said: Is that a question...or is that a statement? We had a Cam Guard guy that was involved with the formulation. He had worked in the industry and new what he was talking about... Unfortunately, with oil additives... there are some pretty funky claims and hokey science... normal for the automotive business... It looks like The CamGuard guy may have landed at one of the other oil companies doing formulation... So... That was my question... Too bad, we collectively gave him a hard time... he had plenty of oil experience to share... Best regards, -a- 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDPetersen Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 I wonder where Phillips Victory fits into this mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quik flite Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Ed Kollin lubrication expert , for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmo Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, BDPetersen said: I wonder where Phillips Victory fits into this mix. Victory includes the LW-16702 additive required / recommended for some Lycoming engines, apart from that it's just a multigrade aviation oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Ellis Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Aircraft Spruce sells the stuff for about $29 a gallon. PHILLIPS 66® AVIATION ANTI-RUST OIL 20W-50 | Aircraft Spruce The description on Aircraft Spruce basically says the same thing that @quik flite says in the original post including adding 10% to your regular oil. Question for the ages is...what do they consider "not flying enough"? Overview Phillips 66 Aviation Antirust Oil is a rust preventive oil specially formulated to help protect aircraft piston engines against rust and corrosion during extended periods of inactivity. Airframe manufacturers have used it for many years as “Fly Away Oil” for new or rebuilt aircraft engines that are expected to sit idle for extended periods of time. Aviation Antirust Oil may be used as “break-in oil” where an all-mineral oil is desired, and is particularly suited for situations where the engine to be broken in may not be immediately put into regular service. When preparing an aircraft for storage, drain the used engine oil and refill with Aviation Antirust Oil. Start the engine and warm it up to normal operating temperature to ensure that the new oil is fully circulated throughout the engine and allowed to coat all engine parts. For best results, fly the aircraft prior to storage. Covering exhaust and intake ports is recommended to minimize exposure to moisture during storage. Aviation Antirust Oil is not designed to be an everyday operational engine oil in aircraft that are flown frequently. It does not contain ashless dispersant additives. Operation time on this oil should not exceed 10 hours. When returning the plane back to normal operation after storage, this oil should be replaced with regular operational engine oil such as Phillips 66 X/C® 20W-50 Aviation Oil. Aviation Antirust Oil is compatible with our other aviation engine oils, and may be used as a “supplement” to those products to enhance rust and corrosion protection when used in infrequently flown aircraft, particularly where high humidity is a concern. When used as a supplement, we recommend replacing up to 10% of the crankcase volume with Aviation Antirust Oil in place of the normal operational engine oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeBee Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 I am willing to bet it has high calcium and phosphorus content compared to regular oil which is basically what Camguard adds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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