Lfreebird Posted November 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Thank you all for your input. I truly appreciate the advice. In the end, I couldn’t pass up the $50 (total) quote I got to powder coat both yokes. I am extremely happy with this decision and can get them recoated 15 more times instead of going the leather route. Now if I could get one of TheTurtle’s metal vintage Mooney decals... -Lance 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunti Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Looks great! I promise (from my own experience) that you will be very happy about your decision for the next years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 See if the turtle still has his email connected... His plane flew East... It showed up in NJ... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT20J Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Lfreebird said: Thank you all for your input. I truly appreciate the advice. In the end, I couldn’t pass up the $50 (total) quote I got to powder coat both yokes. I am extremely happy with this decision and can get them recoated 15 more times instead of going the leather route. Now if I could get one of TheTurtle’s metal vintage Mooney decals... -Lance Looks great. Good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyechuck Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 9:28 PM, hmasing said: $20 roll of bike tape every couple of years, and I can change the color any time. I’ve used bicycle tape forever. Works well for me. What are you using to hold your pens to the panel. Looks really handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 There is a thread around here for what pen holders everyone uses... https://mooneyspace.com/search/?q=Pen holder&updated_after=any&sortby=relevancy&search_and_or=and Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 8:38 PM, Lfreebird said: Thank you all for your input. I truly appreciate the advice. In the end, I couldn’t pass up the $50 (total) quote I got to powder coat both yokes. I am extremely happy with this decision and can get them recoated 15 more times instead of going the leather route. Now if I could get one of TheTurtle’s metal vintage Mooney decals... -Lance Looks good, here are some decals on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-Mooney-Control-Yoke-Decal-Decal-Vintage-General-Aviation-DEC-0108/163931355316?hash=item262b11f8b4:g:QXoAAOSw2jBecnzP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmasing Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 7:13 PM, Buckeyechuck said: I’ve used bicycle tape forever. Works well for me. What are you using to hold your pens to the panel. Looks really handy. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M046PID <--- Those. Cheap, easy, and work great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond J1 Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) Originally, the yokes are "soaked" in white plastic paint (the operation is called soaking). It's an economical industrial process which provides good protection. The drawbacks are delamination due to the high thickness and then cracking of the coating with UV waves and temperature variations. An alternative exists, it's the "flexible" paint, as opposed to the "plastic" paint, you see this every day on the tarpaulins of trucks for example. Application is done with the conventional spray gun (the gravity spray gun is recommended due to the viscosity of the paint), and the paint is 2:1 polyurethane (solvent-based paint, not acrylic), with a "slow" hardener, to you add a "flexibilizer" (available from all industrial paint shops). For Mooney yokes, do not paint directly on aluminum. My advice is first a primer or zinc chromate (no zinc phosphate), then a "filler" primer whose thinner is the same as that of the finishing paint (to avoid cracks on evaporation ). Of course, you have to review the preparation of the pieces because the soaking fades many defaults and as the spray paint does not have the same ability (lesser thicknesses), the original ones will come out. I therefore advise you to pick up the parts where there are burrs and to redo a complete surfacing at 150 grains. Edited December 5, 2020 by Raymond J 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 From Google translate.... JR has given interesting details on a modern polymer coating he used... -a- Originally, the yokes are "soaked" in white plastic paint (the operation is called soaking). It is an economical industrial process which provides good protection. The drawbacks are delamination due to the high thickness and then cracking of the coating with UV waves and temperature variations. An alternative exists, it is the "flexible" paint, as opposed to the "plastic" paint, you see this every day on the tarpaulins of trucks for example. The application is done with the conventional spray gun (the gravity spray gun is recommended due to the viscosity of the paint), and the paint is based on 2: 1 polyurethane (solvent-based paint, not acrylic), with a "slow" hardener , to which you add a "flexibilizer" (available from all body or industrial paint vendors). For Mooney yokes, do not paint directly on aluminum. My advice is to first apply a primer or zinc chromate (no zinc phosphate), then a "filler" primer whose thinner is the same as that of the topcoat (to avoid cracking. evaporation). Of course, it is necessary to review the preparation of the parts because the soaking fades from many defects and as the aerosol paint does not have the same ability (lesser thicknesses), the original ones will come out. I therefore advise you to pick up the parts where there are burrs and to redo a complete grooming at 150 grains. it is necessary to review the preparation of the parts because the soaking fades from many defects and as the aerosol paint does not have the same ability (lesser thicknesses), the original ones will come out. I therefore advise you to pick up the parts where there are burrs and to redo a complete grooming at 150 grains. it is necessary to review the preparation of the parts because the soaking fades from many defects and as the aerosol paint does not have the same ability (lesser thicknesses), the original ones will come out. I therefore advise you to pick up the parts where there are burrs and to redo a complete grooming at 150 grains. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob R Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 I would not paint it. Have it powder coated. Had mine done and came out awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith20EH Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) I kept trying to find a powder coat option, but in the interest of progress, I stripped my yokes, etched, primed and rattle canned them to match my interior. Yes they are cold, but way better than before. If I have to redo them in a few years, I am out about $8. New Mooney emblem bought here on MS makes it look almost new. Thanks for the motivation! Edited January 12, 2021 by Keith20EH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfreebird Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 56 minutes ago, Keith20EH said: I kept trying to find a powder coat option, but in the interest of progress, I stripped my yokes, etched, primed and rattle canned them to match my interior. Yes they are cold, but way better than before. If I have to redo them in a few years, I am out about $8. New Mooney emblem bought here on MS makes it look almost new. Thanks for the motivation! Where did you find the yoke logo? I had to settle for a sticker version from eBay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith20EH Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Metal emblem from The Turtle, try : solohelp@gmail.com. He is here on MS, very good work, it is holding fast with Gorilla Glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfreebird Posted January 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 59 minutes ago, Keith20EH said: Metal emblem from The Turtle, try : solohelp@gmail.com. He is here on MS, very good work, it is holding fast with Gorilla Glue. Thanks for the email. I had sent him a PM many months ago without a reply so I hope he still has some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pstone Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Yoke decals are $.50 @ Wag-aero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 FYI The Turtle replied to my email and gave me the template for the Yoke Emblem (Adobe Illustrator -- old version). I don't think he'd mind if I shared it: -Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 @hammdo, all i see is a ghosted box that says "Sorry, we can't show this content because you do not have permission to see it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Ok, let me see what happened. May need admin approval... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Humm, I can’t set permissions and it looks like a download happened a couple hrs ago. Let me see if I can upload a newer version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 This is what it says after I upload (so it may be waiting for approval): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, hammdo said: Humm, I can’t set permissions and it looks like a download happened a couple hrs ago. Let me see if I can upload a newer version... Put it in the Download section, with the thread titled so that we can scroll through and know what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 I have it here: https://mooneyspace.com/files/category/5-safety-amp-techniques/ -Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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