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So, I am about to commit to an accelerated IFR course. I know we already have multiple threads addressing accelerated IFR training. I just want to ask before I commit, do we have any CFIIs who actually do the accelerated training?

I would prefer to do my training with a Mooney pilot that is here in touch with our community. I am willing to travel somewhere to do the training and am prepared to train until I'm ready to pass the oral and practical exam. I have already passed the knowledge portion. 

Also, any suggestions about good CFIIs are welcome too. It makes sense that if I am going to do the accelerated training, I do it with an instructor who is familiar with doing that type of training and has a proven curriculum to follow.

Thanks,

John

 

 

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I am not really familiar with any accelerated training and do not know anything about these guys. https://accelerated-ifr.com/index.html  But they do say on their web page that they have MAPA Instructor experience so if that is true then they should be quite familiar with Mooneys.

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There are a number of great CFI's that can tailor the training to  you and your abilities located nearby. Jerry Johnson, Parker Woodruff, Bob Cabe come to mind. Don of course is a good suggestion also albeit like me, his distance and thus expenses might not be for the feint of heart. If you go the accelerated pre canned route with the xyz school, make sure you spend a few hours with one of the guys I mentioned so they can give you the Mooney specifics of IFR flight. The accelerated schools will teach you the ticket, the specialists will teach you how to stay alive. Most instructors are as busy as they want to be right at the moment. JD and Laura might be able to offer up some also since your right on their field.

 

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I suggest you find an instructor 

  • You like and you can work with 
  • Who has Mooney experience 
  • And, who has expertise using your specific avionics 

Right now I am training an instrument “learner” in his 182 which has dual G5, GFC500 and GTN750.  We have made extensive changes to a typical instrument syllabus to include his plane’s complex but very capable avionics.  The goal is not just to pass the practical test but to learn to use the systems in actual single pilot IMC.  

Adding to the syllabus probably is not going to increase the amount of simulated and actual instrument time he requires (still 40 hours) but more of the time will be dual than if he were “merely” training to pass the test in a simpler airplane.  We are also waiting for suitable weather so that around 10 of his hours will be in actual IMC.  

I suppose you could call this a “decelerated” IFR training program. 
 

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i am a graduate of PIC ,an advertized "10 day course"....what makes this possible is that both student(learner...god i hate that term)and instructor have to both clear their schedules for that time minimum.That is harder than it sounds....any equipment delays pushs back entire schedule .Critics of these programs believe instruction should be meeted out over weeks or maybe months thinking this leads to better retention and deeper training.Advocates believe an intense programs with no breaks in "learning" are more efficient with no lessons being repeated due to time lapse.I think there is some truth to both methods ,but in realty ,I think both methods produce IFR ratings which are only licenses to learn.Both types typically slowly dip their feet into actual...smoke,low vis,benigh coastal stratus etc .

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I would suggest you accumulate all the requirements to take the exam before you go to the course. 
this way you can focus on the things you need to know for the exam and the rest will be rote. 
most of the accelerated schools require this anyway. 
the checkride for ifr was much easier for me than the ppl because I had accumulated about 150 approaches and close to 100 hours with safety pilots and instructors. 
I personally wanted to be prepared to actually fly imc approaches and the unintended consequence was that the exam was much less stressful. 
I won’t say it was easy, I was just much more prepared. 

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Thanks everyone. I think I've found a guy out in Arizona. He works with PIC. He has some pretty broad experience that includes Mooneys. He flies a Grumman Cheetah though.  It sounds like he will be familiar with my avionics package so, I am talking with them about it. 

 

 

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I did mine in a month with a 22yo CFII I identified. He’s now teaching fighter pilots. IFR is about being aware your senses can lie to you (as opposed to unusual attitudes where your senses are uncompromised) and doing enough approaches to be able to brief one while distracted. 
 

edit to add: you can do a lot for your proficiency without an instructor by practicing tuning VORs and redundantly doing radio navigation while you’re doing VFR flight. 

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I did my Instrument rating within 3 weeks in a Mooney, I did prep for the written before going to the school so that I could focus only on flight time. I prefer the part 141 structure and that was a discussion I had with the school since they operated part 61. They cleared the Mooney for the 3 weeks and I was able to get my Instrument rating. I was committed because my time was limited and I was determined to get the rating before I took my family in our new to me Mooney especially living in the NE.

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