STATE TAX aircraft

[PTK]

The Constitution along with the Federalist Papers should be required reading in each and every classroom across the land.

We need to understand it and follow it.

[KSMooniac]

Quote: Becca

[Skywarrior]

Quote: KSMooniac

[gregwatts]

Quote: Skywarrior

Wow. I really have no words...

[scottfromiowa]

Quote: Becca

You know what I think is sickening about it.. besides that this is a Mooney forum not a political debate... I find it sickening that 52% of the people in this country make so little money that it is unconsionable to tax them because that would place a terrible burden on their ability to provide for their families basic needs in order to pay the tax bill.  This article describes the problem: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/why-do-half-of-all-americans-pay-no-federal-income-taxes/2011/07/11/gIQA8olBuI_blog.html

I'd think it would be worth a moment to reflect upon the economic privledge that you have that allows you to have enough money to own and fly a Mooney, and think about the person who sweeps your office floor and his wife who bags groceries, neither of whom have health insurance, and who have two kids and a household income of less than $26k, the very definition of the working poor, and ask yourself if you'd increase the tax burden on them so you have less of a sales tax burden on your aircraft?  Or if any such sales tax reduction would create jobs in a meaningful amount or increase the lifestyle of the working poor in any way.   We all bought planes and "created" jobs in aircraft manufacturing even with sales taxes and income tax acting against us.   People also bought aircraft in the 1970s when marginal tax rates were higher.   Yes, excessive tax is stiffling to economic development, but no where in our tax code is excessive tax currently existing or being proposed, were talking about small percentage marginal tax rate increases and closing corporate loopholes here.

[Skywarrior]

"Given half the federal budget goes to the military, the government got you a pretty good start in life."

Actual Percentage of Federal Budget spent on Defense: 15%

[b65cuda]

"I recently asked my neighbors' little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be a President. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, 'If you were President what would be the first thing you would do? ' She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.' Her parents beamed with pride 'Wow...what a worthy goal.' I ...told her, 'But you don't have to wait until you're a President to do that! You can come over to my house to mow the lawn, pull weeds, trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.' She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, 'Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50? ' I said, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.' Her parents still aren't speaking to me." (Stolen from a Friend!)

[smccray]

Quote: gregwatts

Wow. I really have no words...

[jetdriven]

I suppose old Herman might be dead if insurance companies could drop him, after all, cancer is a "pre-existing condition."  However, he is still wealthy enough to afford his own coverage.  he never said what his premiums are, either.

Quote: N4352H

Any person who beats stage 4 colon and liver cancer and can run for president, deserves a nod. Health Care? He's lived it. Flat Tax? Somebody more charismatic than Steve Forbes has to sell it. His message has kinks, but I hope he ends up being a player.....in any capacity. The Man is a winner.

[jetdriven]

I suppose old Herman might be dead if insurance companies could drop him, after all, cancer is a "pre-existing condition."  However, he is still wealthy enough to afford his own coverage.  he never said what his premiums are, either.

Quote: N4352H

Any person who beats stage 4 colon and liver cancer and can run for president, deserves a nod. Health Care? He's lived it. Flat Tax? Somebody more charismatic than Steve Forbes has to sell it. His message has kinks, but I hope he ends up being a player.....in any capacity. The Man is a winner.

[jetdriven]

Half of all discretionary spending is the military. http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm

I wonder how much we could give back to the people or how much we could lower taxes if we weren't fighting two wars and smothering the planet with our military.

Quote: Skywarrior

"Given half the federal budget goes to the military, the government got you a pretty good start in life."

Actual Percentage of Federal Budget spent on Defense: 15%

[Parker_Woodruff]

Quote: jetdriven

[jetdriven]

Are you denying that someone with a history of cancer, or a diagnosis of one, could be "uninsurable"?

 

Ever heard of recission of policy?     

One good thing from these new rules is that insurance companies can now no longer "dump" someone or rescind their policy when they get sick.  Nobody cares until it is them.

[rbridges]

Quote: jetdriven

 

[John Pleisse]

Quote: jetdriven

Are you denying that someone with a history of cancer, or a diagnosis of one, could be "uninsurable"?

 

Ever heard of recission of policy?     

One good thing from these new rules is that insurance companies can now no longer "dump" someone or rescind their policy when they get sick.  Nobody cares until it is them.

[Becca]

Quote: smccray

WOW indeed...

[scottfromiowa]

Quote: jetdriven

Are you denying that someone with a history of cancer, or a diagnosis of one, could be "uninsurable"?

 

Ever heard of recission of policy?     

One good thing from these new rules is that insurance companies can now no longer "dump" someone or rescind their policy when they get sick.  Nobody cares until it is them.

[scottfromiowa]

Quote: Becca

WOW indeed...

[scottfromiowa]

Quote: jetdriven

 

[MARZ]

Quote: scottfromiowa

 

[smccray]

Quote: scottfromiowa

I am scratching my head on that one too!

[jetdriven]

So then, you have no objection to an insurance company refusing to offer coverage to someone because of a pre-existing condition?  

You have no issue with someone getting sick, and the insurance company refunding all premiums paid last year and canceling the policy?

Quote: scottfromiowa

 Byron:

Cancer and other catastrophic illness or life events such as earth quakes floods etc... are horrible, tragic in their magnitude and impact, but...The insurance carrier is there with a policy for a price.  They are in business to make money, for if they do not their employees and shareholders and other policy holders as well as society will be impacted.  Yes, there are coverage limits and exclusions.

Insurance companies DO make decisions on coverage and insurability.  They must.  They are driven by actuarial figures.  They price and preject based on the "known".

We in the US are free to spend every dime we make and NOT save for the future.  We are free to spend our money on airplanes and life insurance or not.  We are free to buy flood and quake insurance supplemental medical insurance...or not.

This is America where we have freedom to choose to do or NOT do.  Why do you love big government and revile Insurance carriers?  The insurance carrier is about choice and policy coverage.  The government is about mandates and "Must".

What has happened to self determination, decision making, controlling ones destiny in this country?  When did we start expecting everyone else to be responsible for our problems that were often based on our decisions and lifestyles?

[HartParr]

  Why does military funding come from discretionary funds yet welfare is an entitlement? Seems kinda backwards in a world where people are sworn to kill all 'heathens' and America's 'poor' live in relative luxury.

   I have a degree in econimics from a major university and I paid for every cent of it, and it was the one of the worst investments I've made so far. The property taxes I've paid and my parents have paid over the years have been more than sufficient to pay for the public education for my children and me, and the dirt roads that I travel on 90% of the time.

    The talking point of government came first so that the people can prosper is straight out of Karl Marx's playbook. Everybody should be very careful of where they get thier current news from. There are those out there that want a socialist society and nothing has ever worked better at raising everybody's lot in life as capitalism. 

   Republicans don't have a plan that you know of??? Where have you been? Where do you get your news from? NPR. The Dems have NEVER submitted a budget since they have gained control of this current mess. Does the Ryan budget ring a bell? This is the first pres in my life that has never submitted a budget.

[scottfromiowa]

Quote: jetdriven

 Byron:

Cancer and other catastrophic illness or life events such as earth quakes floods etc... are horrible, tragic in their magnitude and impact, but...The insurance carrier is there with a policy for a price.  They are in business to make money, for if they do not their employees and shareholders and other policy holders as well as society will be impacted.  Yes, there are coverage limits and exclusions.

Insurance companies DO make decisions on coverage and insurability.  They must.  They are driven by actuarial figures.  They price and preject based on the "known".

We in the US are free to spend every dime we make and NOT save for the future.  We are free to spend our money on airplanes and life insurance or not.  We are free to buy flood and quake insurance supplemental medical insurance...or not.

This is America where we have freedom to choose to do or NOT do.  Why do you love big government and revile Insurance carriers?  The insurance carrier is about choice and policy coverage.  The government is about mandates and "Must".

What has happened to self determination, decision making, controlling ones destiny in this country?  When did we start expecting everyone else to be responsible for our problems that were often based on our decisions and lifestyles?

[PTK]

Becca, if I may interject, I think you are incorrect.  Big government invariably finds itself needing to get bigger in order to sustain itself.  This translates to bigger and bigger debt that the taxpayers must bear in order to feed it. GOVERNMENT DOES NOT PRODUCE VALUE. The people do and increasingly government in a major hinderence. 

It is the same taxpayer who pays to sustain bigger and bigger government and frankly it's high time the government got out of the way.