JMV Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 This post is for confirmation that some tinkering has been done to our vent door. The first image shows the push-pull wire extended to (unsuccessfully) close the vent door, second image retracted to open the door. I'm assuming the wire end should be straight and secured in a cable end B-nut or equivalent for adjustment, pivot, and open/close operation. Instead we have what you see - tab on the door and wire end both bent to accommodate one another for one-way only operation. So, unless I'm in error, the plan is to straighten the tab and wire end and apply said B-nut to repair - and hope nothing breaks off in the process! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 What does the book say? There will be pics in the parts catalog... Guessing at how it should work sounds like a set up for further disappointment... These slide gates are classic... You probably have two... One for hot air, one for outside air... Both probably look alike. Mine were very rusted, and liked to create drag over the year... Each year they got cleaned and lubricated to work pretty well... There was no way I was going to redesign something that kind of worked.... Consider an upgrade... there are parts available to turn the slide gates into a valve that worked for longer than a year... Look for how the cable is supposed to be held in place... an actuator that isn’t constrained, can’t actuate... No need to change the slide gate, when the push/pull wire needs the help... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F-1968 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 I envision an easy fix for this. Make a small aluminum block and secure it to the slider tab with by way of the same hole the wire goes through now. Drill and tap a hole for a screw on the side of the block that will hold the wire, possible fashion and eyelet on the wire. Another way would be to drill the block for a straight wire and hold the wire in place with a set screw. Lubricate the sliding gate well. All can be done fairly easily by yourself or your A&P, hangar elf, or friend. John Breda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 I believe the correct fitting is a steel rod with a hole drilled through it axially and tapped for a #6 screw. Then a hole slightly larger than the wire drilled radially through it at the center of its length. If I remember there are two of these fittings, one on each side of the tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moontownMooney Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Carusoam has a good thougght regarding finding the pics from the parts catalogue. With that said, I think ours ('68 M20F) has the same parts here and ive included a pic below. I do not know nor have I verified that mine is original. But I think it is consistent with others comments. Bottom line... I think the bend in the tab IS original and you just need some fasteners on the wire to hold tight against the tab. I think if you tried to unbend the tab there is a good chance it would break.Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMV Posted July 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Thanks for the replies - our service/parts manual isn't real expansive, didn't include pix of the heat/vent system nor was my usual backup (mooney.com) available presently. Your suggestions prompted me to try again, whereby I found a free J catalog to inspect, thinking at least part of the system might be similar. The picture of the vent door and attendant cable end isn't great, but good enough to confirm that the tab is supposed to be bent and the cable end (Wescon Products of Wichita) is linear instead of the usual 90 degree arrangement. It finally occurred to me also to check locally (Muncie Aviation) tomorrow to see if their parts catalog would suggest pursuing Wescon further. Using cable stops as moontownMooney has done is quick and practical if I fail to make it harder than it needs to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMV Posted July 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 MA came through with the desired picture from their parts catalog that depicts the use of 3 wire stops as moontownMooney has described, so a trip to the NAPA Aero Dept should resolve our issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Great follow up JMV... Post pics when you have success moving the slide valve... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMV Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Fix was accomplished week before last with 2 wire stops to capture the cable end and 2 adel clamps to secure the cable in place. 3 wire stops were tried but restricted door opening too much. The whole arrangement could have been better designed, but is at least now functional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 JMV, It did need a better design... After a couple of years, Mooney went to a butterfly valve instead of slide gates... Congrats on the fix. Keep it well lubed... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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