afward Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, EricJ said: That doesn't really jive with the history, though. NASA funded DC-X (Delta Clipper) and then improved on the technology, in the 1990s. There were a lot of other, practical barriers, like funding, that were big influences. When private money got more involved, that was a big enabler. Well, remember that NASA had only begrudgingly taken the program on (as DC-XA), AFTER Lockheed-Martin's DC-X project flew several successful test flights (which, BTW, only happened because the USAF agreed to foot the entire bill involved). In short, "Old Space" didn't spend a dime on the possibility, and that NASA dropped it at the first viable opportunity shouldn't surprise anyone. To add further insult to injury, "Old Space" actively (until SpaceX proved them demonstrably wrong) worked to convince everyone that reusable boosters couldn't be done, once they realized what SpaceX was working toward. For what it's worth, they still aren't actively working on it (SLS and Vulcan are both fully-expendable)... I argue the big enabler wasn't private money getting involved, but rather private companies being allowed to treat NASA as a normal launch customer and NASA committing to fund the development and buy the services developed. Keep in mind, SpaceX scraped-together the 4th Falcon 1 test rocket mostly from spare parts, and had it not worked would've closed shop and been barely a footnote to history. That flight working is what got them the first NASA contract. Of course, there certainly was private money involved in the overall development (they did have other launch customers), but the _enabling_ wasn't private money, it was public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 8 hours ago, MooneyMitch said: ..... and that’s what I’m sayin’ Isn't that what the next one will be called? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 5 hours ago, afward said: ...but the _enabling_ wasn't private money, it was public. That's semantics, I think. And I think there are far more sides to the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmo Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 17 hours ago, MooneyMitch said: I like this part...... So do I... But the news coverage I see makes me wonder if sending that book to the White House would be considered an act of treason, sabotage or terrorism. Especially if purchased via and delivered by Amazon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted June 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 A SpaceXaholic......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviatoreb Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, MooneyMitch said: A SpaceXaholic......... Spaceophile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 Tesla needs an inner-space project... A plane... Next gen battery and drive system mounted in an ultra efficient plane... Aluminum or composite Mooney? Elon isn’t as busy anymore.... The timing would be perfect... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elliott Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted June 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 45 minutes ago, mike_elliott said: The future lies ahead.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted June 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Photo of last Saturday SpaceX launch. Photo taken from beach near Stuart, Florida. SpaceX through up a bunch more internet satellites! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted August 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just about to undock from space station!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Splash down in just a few hours!! Wow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Waiting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammdo Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 This was a very interesting part of past ISS missions and having a way to navigate space without references to/from Earth - Pulsar Navigation (Space version of GPSS) https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-00478-8 -Don 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, hammdo said: This was a very interesting part of past ISS missions and having a way to navigate space without references to/from Earth - Pulsar Navigation (Space version of GPSS) https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-00478-8 -Don Awesome ! Sure makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 C-SPAN video/audio link showing Hawthorne control room area is providing a great view of SpaceX rocket facility and just how open and transparent the factory truly is as I discovered during my tour there last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Dragon Endeavor .....space craft and amphibious craft !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 An incredibly proud and inspirational moment for America!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy0681 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Right on target. It never ceases to amaze me how the eggheads get the calculation so precise with so many variables. Even back in the day the splashdowns were close to their target: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Next..... SpaceX will land the capsule on recovery ship flight deck! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Fantastic performance! Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elliott Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Elon sipping his coffee...then he breaks out the champagne. Well done sir! Congrats on a great team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman1200 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 that looked like a good crosswind landing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 hours ago, MooneyMitch said: An incredibly proud and inspirational moment for America!!! It seemed more exciting when we did the same thing fifty years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, EricJ said: It seemed more exciting when we did the same thing fifty years ago. For myself, this mission was as exciting as were our initial space flights (manned). I found them all incredibly exciting beginning with the Mercury project on through the Space Shuttle flights. It’s possible with the overall success of manned space flight, and the more commonplace it has become, the excitement may have dwindled for many. This mission did offer extra excitement with the United States ability to orbit humans and return them safely to earth. I believe the success of this mission provides a lift (no pun) to American pride of accomplishment during these times of such vastly touted negativity. I am a lover of all things that fly! Having spent many years employed at our west coast rocket base, I’m definitely a huge fan of rocket launches and all things associated! We never got to launch humans from our facility, but we came close!! I’d go out in a heartbeat, given the opportunity..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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