Jim Peace Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Has this been posted someplace on MS? https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/plane-makes-emergency-landing-at-cecil-airport-after-landing-gear-fails/77-f7734610-c8eb-44bc-bdf8-36aa3f319bda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydvrboy Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Peace Posted January 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 I dont know why we cant put all incidents and accidents in this one area..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishpilot Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 @Jim Peace, we can. I just need to know about it. I'm a one man-shop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) On 1/9/2020 at 6:09 AM, Jim Peace said: I dont know why we cant put all incidents and accidents in this one area..... Is a gear up an Accident? https://pilot-protection-services.aopa.org/news/2016/may/04/did-i-just-have-an-accident-or-an-incident to be sure the PHMSA which is also apart of DOT defines an Incident differently than the NTSB or FAA. Edited January 27, 2020 by Yetti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortopates Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Yetti said: Is a gear up an Accident? https://pilot-protection-services.aopa.org/news/2016/may/04/did-i-just-have-an-accident-or-an-incident to be sure the PHMSA which is also apart of DOT defines an Incident differently than the NTSB or FAA. Almost all Mooney gear ups are classified as Incidents by the FAA and never reviewed by the NTSB. Lesser still than an "Incident" is an "Occurrence", such as going off the runway and perhaps taking out a light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, kortopates said: Almost all Mooney gear ups are classified as Incidents by the FAA and never reviewed by the NTSB. Lesser still than an "Incident" is an "Occurrence", such as going off the runway and perhaps taking out a light. Which begs the question do incidents or occurrences rise to the level of being in the Accident portion of the forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 I know a guy... That may know the answer to the question... Let’s ask @irishpilot accident, incident, or occurrence... GU question... and when do these get to the accident forum? Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmo Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Well, if it (the runway excursion) ends up with an engine teardown it sure is an accident to the wallet... Even if the FAA doesn't think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary0747 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 It is definitely worth posting here regardless of accident or occurrence especially if there is follow up information telling us the cause. We seldom get that with occurrences though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishpilot Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 @carusoam, thanks for the ping. I agree with @Gary0747. Tracking incidents and accidents gives us a good look at trends within our community. Even if we can't track down the causes of incidents (since not reported to the NTSB), it still serves as a good discussion to ensure our general knowledge is up to snuff. If someone can merge the duplicate threads outside the safety section, I'd be much obliged. I can move threads, but not merge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 IP, For the higher level of manipulating things... asking Craig / @mooniac58 can get you to the right spot... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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