Eight8Victor Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 For all you gear heads, I just found this old article from Car and Driver. It’s a fun Read. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15141011/fear-of-flying-ferrari-vs-plane-the-sequel-archived-feature/ 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Reminds me of the Top Gear “race” from Italy to London with some super car vs. a C182. Of course, they designed it so the car could win (public transit to the airport, can’t fly at night, so they have to land in France, public transit to London, etc). BTW, given that I live 90 min away from a major airline serviced airport, the Mooney is faster than commercial air for anything less than ~500 nm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhop Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Good article @Eight8Victor, I can say this... What is one's sanity worth! I live in La Mesa, CA and my wife resides in Winchester CA. We don't cohabitate because of work, commute times, and retirement plans. It's 77SM door to door. On average it's well over two hours of stressful SOCAL driving. Going north it is consistently over two and a half hours of sitting in traffic. Flying is so much more relaxing. When I start the commute north via Mooney travel, it's--a stress induced--45 minutes to the J from work, which is the same as my drive home. It is 5-20 minutes from preflight to liftoff. My average wheels up to down is 24 minutes. It takes us 10 minutes to button up the J and travel to her residence, for an average of 98 to 110 minutes of Mooney travel. With my fuzzy math I save between 40 to 50 minutes of time but I also save my/our sanity. Her commute is a lot less stressful because she is driving opposite the normal SOCAL commute but it's still longer than it is when I pick her up in our Mooney. I estimate that I save her between 15 to 20 minutes each way and I GET TO FLY! I hate driving in SOCAL and can't wait for fully autonomous cars, although I hate to think what they will do to my driving experience when he roads open up on the weekends and the subsequent impact on flying in the future. Everyone in SOCAL drives/speeds either bumper to bumper and cut-throat or they are the dumb-a$$' in the passing lane driving side-by-side with the vehicle they are supposed to be passing. The dumb-a$$'s are usually driving side-by side under the speed limit, while everyone around them is road raging and driving recklessly trying to get around them. Regards, Jon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravoman Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Comet said: Reminds me of the Top Gear “race” from Italy to London with some super car vs. a C182. Of course, they designed it so the car could win (public transit to the airport, can’t fly at night, so they have to land in France, public transit to London, etc). BTW, given that I live 90 min away from a major airline serviced airport, the Mooney is faster than commercial air for anything less than ~500 nm. I think it’s more like anything 700-800 or less door to door. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 Especially if you feel like going today or tomorrow... Or you are going to bring a friend or two... I started to learn how to fly because you can’t drive 80+ on public streets around here... Too crowded, too expensive when you get caught... Best regards, -a- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 11 hours ago, carusoam said: Especially if you feel like going today or tomorrow... Or you are going to bring a friend or two... I started to learn how to fly because you can’t drive 80+ on public streets around here... Too crowded, too expensive when you get caught... Best regards, -a- You can't drive that fast much, and you probably shouldn't fly your Mooney that slow very much, either! I just made a quick tube trip, ATL-BOS; made reservations Tues morning, flew up Wed afternoon and back Fri afternoon. Had many choices and the price was quite reasonable. Rental car was $33/day, totaling $125--soak the visitors! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 10:26 PM, carusoam said: Especially if you feel like going today or tomorrow... Or you are going to bring a friend or two... I started to learn how to fly because you can’t drive 80+ on public streets around here... Too crowded, too expensive when you get caught... Best regards, -a- Same same, it is a 1:40 to STL from my house, so sub 500, the Mooney wins...except mid fall through early spring when the stinking ice machine fires up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, Stephen said: Same same, it is a 1:40 to STL from my house, so sub 500, the Mooney wins...except mid fall through early spring when the stinking ice machine fires up. Being 2 hours from ATL, my Mooney beats the airlines beyond 500 nm. My level cruise speed envelope at travel altitudes so far is 68-186 knots ground speed, 145-ish KTAS. So it varies . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibra Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 2:58 AM, Comet said: Reminds me of the Top Gear “race” from Italy to London with some super car vs. a C182. Of course, they designed it so the car could win (public transit to the airport, can’t fly at night, so they have to land in France, public transit to London, etc). BTW, given that I live 90 min away from a major airline serviced airport, the Mooney is faster than commercial air for anything less than ~500 nm. I bet two of my friends flying an airliner from door to their destination airport on a similar 400nm leg flying an Archer (on a Mooney, I would have been in a swimming pool waiting ) On a winter day like today, they could win that London-Bergerac challenge with a donkey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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