podair Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) I have lost track how many times this thing has tried to decapitate me... I am a bit tired of the baggage door crashing on my head when there is a slight gust of wind when loading. Are there any aftermarkets STCs which a sturdier solution, or shall I just call Lasar for a new one? Mine is pretty loose around the bit where it clicks into place, and I can't see how I can fix mine. Edited September 22, 2019 by podair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, podair said: I have lost track how many times this thing has tried to decapitate me... I am a bit tired of the baggage door crashing on my head when there is a slight gust of wind when loading. Are there any aftermarkets STCs which a sturdier solution, or shall I just call Lasar for a new one? Mine is pretty loose around the bit where it clicks into place. Not sure on yours but the C's & E's just go over center to hold them in place. Mine was MIA and not available so I copied a buddy's , fairly easy to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huitt3106 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 I need one for a C model. I don’t have any tools to do sheet metal work and was curious if there was another option anywhere. I’d like it to look similar to original if possible. Any ideas?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podair Posted September 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 thanks, but on the F it is a slider that clicks into place when extended, I ll try and take a picture next time I fight with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 My C has the same roller slider that's on the bottom of the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, podair said: thanks, but on the F it is a slider that clicks into place when extended, I ll try and take a picture next time I fight with it. my bad... my E is the older style. Could you drill a small hole through both arms and pin it with one of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podair Posted September 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 hmm, good idea, I ll have a look at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, podair said: hmm, good idea, I ll have a look at that. stick one of these one there as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 There are also some sources of used parts... Three that visit here often... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F-1968 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Why not use a pneumatic piston. This is more of a hardware part. Does it really have to be factory part or copy of a factory part? John Breda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortopates Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, M20F-1968 said: Why not use a pneumatic piston. This is more of a hardware part. Does it really have to be factory part or copy of a factory part? John Breda Maybe we could get the people that make the very popular gas structs for the pipers to get an stc for the Mooney's like they did for the pipers. They have them both for the pilot door and baggage door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huitt3106 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 There are also some sources of used parts... Three that visit here often... Best regards, -a- Who would be a good source for this? I’d prefer to do it this way depending on the price. Thank you!MattSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F-1968 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I have a RAT (air driven alternator) that uses such struts to push open a door to get the turbine into the wind (mounter on the avionics bay door). The company makes them in many sizes. I am sure one can be used for this purpose. I'll look for the manufacturer's name. John Breda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueOne Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) I replaced mine after same thing happened (getting hit in head). I purchased from a Mooney service center. Less than ten bucks and it is simple and works. Make a few calls before replacing with an over engineered contraption. Edited September 23, 2019 by RogueOne 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podair Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 yep I was thinking along the lines of the door strut stcs they sell for Cessnas and Pipers and wondered if something similar exists. Then again if a new one is cheap, I might as well just replace it. Will call Lasar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Huitt3106 said: Who would be a good source for this? I’d prefer to do it this way depending on the price. Thank you! Matt Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Matt, We have three resources for pre-owned Mooney parts around here... @Alan Fox @acpartswhse @SheryLoewen Every now and then somebody will mention a salvage yard they have used. So using the search function may also give a hint to where you may find something... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Fox Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I have 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podair Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 oooh... the slider one used on M20Fs? will take a pic of mine Thursday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huitt3106 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) The link below is the one I'm looking for. My local MSC doesn't have anything available but they found the one in the link. I may have to install one as owner supplied. https://aircraftpartsandsalvage.com/product_info.php?products_id=29309 Edited September 23, 2019 by Huitt3106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortopates Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I don't know about the one in the link above used on the older C model. But the long slider mechanism used on the Mid body's and long body's are repairable by LASAR and very affordable. In fact, they may have one on the shelf ready to go as an exchange or they'll repair your existing one. What they send out is like new, except stronger with a beefier weld at the door and base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huitt3106 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 I don't know about the one in the link above used on the older C model. But the long slider mechanism used on the Mid body's and long body's are repairable by LASAR and very affordable. In fact, they may have one on the shelf ready to go as an exchange or they'll repair your existing one. What they send out is like new, except stronger with a beefier weld at the door and base. Definitely don’t want to have to buy a new one if that’s what you have.. Here’s their link for that (it’s not available). https://lasar.com/doors/baggage-door-hold-open-arm-350154-901I called them earlier and they don’t have any available that match what I have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huitt3106 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Definitely don’t want to have to buy a new one if that’s what you have.. Here’s their link for that (it’s not available). https://lasar.com/doors/baggage-door-hold-open-arm-350154-901I called them earlier and they don’t have any available that match what I have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is their link for the older style https://lasar.com/doors/baggage-door-arm-913020-002 I’ll likely just figure out a way to fabricate my own. It’s hurts my CB soul to pay $175 for a used part that is made up of $1 worth of materials (I’m fully aware of the cost to manufacture low demand parts like this, not arguing with that aspect). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huitt3106 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Not sure on yours but the C's & E's just go over center to hold them in place. Mine was MIA and not available so I copied a buddy's , fairly easy to make Do you remember the materials you used? What gauge and steel or aluminum? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Huitt3106 said: Do you remember the materials you used? What gauge and st Not sure on the gauge but it was the same as the original, material was overkill (4130 Chromoly), I turned the rivet out of mild steel. I've made 2 others for MS members but I don't have enough 4130 left to make another one, plus my lathe is tied up for the next 4 or 5 weeks or I'd make you one and send it to you.... Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huitt3106 Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Not sure on the gauge but it was the same as the original, material was overkill (4130 Chromoly), I turned the rivet out of mild steel. I've made 2 others for MS members but I don't have enough 4130 left to make another one, plus my lathe is tied up for the next 4 or 5 weeks or I'd make you one and send it to you.... Sorry No worries, I appreciate the information! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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