jaylw314 Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, gsxrpilot said: The age of the airframe is the least of concerns for Mooneys. And where it counts for the pilot, the left front seat, nothing has changed in those 30 years. I agree in principle, but I'd also point out an older Mooney is more likely to have been exposed to a problem owner the longer ago it was built... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 For about half of the 150K you can get a really nice F model and only be a few knots slower. As of 23 minutes ago, a F was posted for sale in the classified forum....$75,000.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydvrboy Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, gsxrpilot said: @Yetti and I are in agreement. https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/98544505/1967-mooney-m20f-exec-21 Man, that is one nicely modded F and it seems to be priced right. But I'd fire my mechanic if he gave me the compression numbers listed! • Compressions at last annual: #1 74, #2 75, #3 66, #4 74, #5 72, #6 72 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Let's just do it this way.... As I am planning on dropping a week and 9 AMU on panel upgrades. Whatever I spent to get it flying I really don't remember from several years ago. I do remember many of the flights I have taken in the plane....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortopates Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, skydvrboy said: Man, that is one nicely modded F and it seems to be priced right. But I'd fire my mechanic if he gave me the compression numbers listed! • Compressions at last annual: #1 74, #2 75, #3 66, #4 74, #5 72, #6 72 That's got to be broker mistake! But it sure makes you loose confidence in the correctness of the rest of the listing. First G500 in an olded J-Bar F that I have seen. But its lack of shoulder belts would keep me out of it till that was fixed! All that $ on upgrades and no shoulder belts is nuts! Edited August 21, 2019 by kortopates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dawson Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 I wouldn't cast doubt on the engine yet. Has the owner done the proper maintenance on the engine and frame? Has he changed the oil ever 25 hours and the filter every 50? Does he do oil analysis every 25 or 50 hours and does it show a trend of consistency and is he willing to show you all the results? Where was it kept over the last 10 years? Near the ocean outside or a heated hangar? Or in the desert and how many hours before it needs a quart of oil? Check out a few of Mike Busch's webinars on engines. Educate yourself. I personally like the J model because it was designed from the start to go fast and be efficient and I think they will hold the best value compared to other NA models other than possibly the Ovation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Flyer Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 I wouldn't cast doubt on the engine yet. Has the owner done the proper maintenance on the engine and frame? Has he changed the oil ever 25 hours and the filter every 50? Does he do oil analysis every 25 or 50 hours and does it show a trend of consistency and is he willing to show you all the results? Where was it kept over the last 10 years? Near the ocean outside or a heated hangar? Or in the desert and how many hours before it needs a quart of oil? Check out a few of Mike Busch's webinars on engines. Educate yourself. I personally like the J model because it was designed from the start to go fast and be efficient and I think they will hold the best value compared to other NA models other than possibly the Ovation The previous owner did the oil change every annual since he flew less than 50 hours a year. Back then logs show the oil analysis was done every year and didn’t show any “red flags”Current owner changes oil 2 times a year and he flew about 180 hours since 2016. He didn’t do any oil analysis though so all I have is 2 records from annual in LASR saying “oil filter disassembled and inspected...”Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dawson Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 If there's enough hours on the new oil you could take a sample and send it out for analysis before you purchase if you're curious about the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 In my experience, oil analysis isn’t useful, I had bad cam/lifters on 1 node and testing showed normal levels. Maybe if all nodes were bad, but a single node didn’t shed enough metal to raise any red flags.Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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